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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:49 pm 
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 Post subject: map
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I cannot know how to find your blog with this info.

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 Post subject: dave's site
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hi bob, i don't think he's selling anything. i've looked over his site before and i actually am right on board with a lot of the things he says. i haven't read it slowly to look in detail for a sales pitch or a link to purchase something, but i didn't recall his having a sales pitch per se, and i didn't find anything obvious at a glance today.

his reference list looks pretty good (without checking every one) although a few are obviously not peer-reviewed journal sources. out of almost 50 references, one or possibly two of them seem to have a spiritual leaning. the site has a much higher level of spiritual representation than his research. but if that's his route to his answers, power to him, i say :)


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 Post subject: blogstream
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yea i had to search the blogstream for it too, but then, i knew what i was looking for so i didn't get any red herrings. we all make mistakes sometimes - dave's was the 'www'. leave that out if y'all want to check out his site for yourselves :)


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give me a break. ms will take it's course and affects everybody differently until the end of time much like all the other diseases, thers no money in cures, lets just keep taking those drugs and have lots of hope. if you feel better it's not because of what you are doing or taking it's just because the ms wants you to feel that way, as for this this guy i can't say what i think...theres nothing for ms except all the drugs that cost 20,000 a month and have a 30% chance of helping, good luck 3 in 10.... may as well thers nothing to loose..


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sorry i meant 20,000 a year i'm just a little p\o that people can take the natural course of ms and claim to have found the miracle help or even cure and profit from peoples desperation...


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 Post subject: natural course of ms
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so, if nutrition studies are not realistic, how can the drug studies be sure that drugs do anything and it wasn't just the natural course of ms?


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title of this thread edited to remove absolutes. As of today, there are no known cures to MS (yet).

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There are people with MS out there that have done quite well with natural cures. Peace within yourself can't hurt either. As far as a cure or not, no one knows and probably never will. You can't say that "this" cured the MS until "this" is tested on many many people. But hey, if anyone can find what works for them, so be it. I have learned to take Dr's and researchers with a "grain of salt". Me and Gary know about Gary's disease, and to this day have not found anybody that has MS like him. There are some that are close, but not quite. As far as inner peace, I know that hate, bitterness, and depression will eat you alive given enough time.


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His would not show up on test. No test; no spinal tap, MRI, eye evoked test, nothing. Then they finally said that if it walks like a duck.... then it must be a duck. He resonded to treatments for MS. He was labeled "clinical MS". Now he does have some lesions, but very few. He also has been paralyzed from the neck or chest down, completely, too many times to count. He always got back up and lived "normal" after that. Now he walks with a cane and the MS has taken his eye sight, completely in one eye and just as well in the other eye. Fatigue was never a problem in the earlier years. Just in the past 3 years does the heat bother him some. But he can cool off and be back at it. I am talking in the heat of the summer in the southern US on a roto tiller in the garden in the noon day sun. That really blows typical MS.


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 Post subject: invisible ms
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wow that is crazy that he could be so affected and not show up on mri. my mri looks so sketchy i can't believe i only had/have sensory loss. bad enough thanks very much.

i think in the end there will never be one specific thing that fixes ms. i agree that it is highly individual.


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