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Postby viper498 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:27 pm

Ok, I need to vent a little. I just read this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15345694/

My comment is... How can these people be so narrow sighted? I say How dare them have the nerve to publicly come out and express their anger that some more body parts have been discovered. Do they think that they are the only people in NYC or America? Do they realize that there are people dying from lung disorders because they helped in the rescue/recovery, and clean-up of this monumental disaster? and yet this is still not good enough? Just imagine how much money and resources have been spent to find and properly identify 20,000 bone fragments, sorting through 1.8 million tons of debris. How can they be so stuck on this? It is always painful to lose a loved one, especially in such a terrible way, but people die every day. I would think that the important thing is to celebrate their loved ones life as it was, and have closure. If they are unable to do that because of this finding then who ever is driving the WTC Families for Proper Burial organization needs to get some help. Just my two cents.
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we're still after vietnam on this issue

Postby notasperfectasyou » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:09 pm

I understand the request for being reasonable, but I'd also want to know what these families have been told for the last 5 years. Sometimes our government mishandles information or presents it in a way that explodes later. Ok, maybe more than sometimes. All I'm trying to say is, we have a snapshot here of a moment in 2006 and we don't have the full movie over the last 5 years to tell us the whole perspective. I would want to know more. napay
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Postby Lyon » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:04 pm

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Postby viper498 » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:17 am

Bob,

Thank you. I couldn't have said it better. Those are my feelings as well. We have thrown huge amounts of money at these families. Where is the money for our servicemens families???? Yet those people have the audacity to continue to harp on about their woes after all that has been spent to respect their loved ones remains, and all the money that has been given to them by the gov't and the american people. Thanks again Bob.

Brock

P.S. I'll shut up now ;-)
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Postby Lyon » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:02 am

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Postby Grumpster » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:39 pm

Wow, good to know that i am not the only one thinking the exact same thing. Of course there are still fragments lurking around. I heard a rumor that the O.C. boming family members were trying to get the same type deal as the ones from the WTC. That is CRAZY Liberalism at work.

Anyway, nice to chat about something else than MS

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Postby REDHAIRANDTEMPER » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:53 am

have to agree with ya there everyone..i understand its hard to dealwith someone dying but i think i would be more happy to know if one of those fragments was my loved one..then i could have the celibration of their life and move one with mine..but to harp about the money they should get or didnt get for what ever reason..i have friends who are in the military and who have come back who live in that area and it just upsets them to no end..yes they understand these people died and it was horrible but to come back to have to listen to all this without a thank u from these people...i mean they are over there fighting the people who did this to thier family members...what do they get when it is mentioned they were over there fighting..well why haven't ya got them yet or well ya know i had a family member who died in the towers...my one friends wife had to move out of their apartment and move in with her family while he was over cause of him not being here to help pay everything..she was sick when pregent and ya know no one offered to help them...now dont ya think that would be the people we should be helping..god knows i sent her what i could to help....even thou i didnt have much at the time...but since he was serving this country helping keep me safe i thought it was the least i could do....okay am done venting..good thing to talk about..thank u

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Postby robbie » Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:07 am

i mean they are over there fighting the people who did this to thier family members...


Chris i know your joking when you say that..
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Postby REDHAIRANDTEMPER » Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:32 pm

sorry i think faster then i write sometimies and get side tracked come back and dont pay any attention to what i am writing am sure there was something else to go with that so it makes more sense...lol.....i just can remember what the heck it was..so delete that little thing from your reading people...when i figure out what else was suppose to with that i will let ya know..bad day for my mind today

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Postby Vidalia » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:08 pm

Grief takes many forms and I believe these folks have seen a world of hurt and they are angry. That could explain part of their position. Personal emotionally driven behavior is very powerful. They are seeking closure, I'm not sure they will ever quite get there, I'm not sure money (that they've gotten or will get from any source) will ever provide them the comfort they are seeking. Nor will any bone fragment, shoe, notebook, dayrunner, briefcase etc...ever replace the person that possessed those items. Moving on is the hard part...this rebuilding on the site must be difficult for those that are still stuck in the loop of grief.

We as a country have all been hurt. Granted some more personally than others however I fail to see how delaying the inevitable rebuilding on that site will ease their pain. We still find bones and buttons of our forefathers who fought in the civil war to this day. We unearth tombs everyday, remember the sacred Indian burrial grounds we disturbed for a freeway? I feel that, like those that die at sea, what is left should be committed to that place. To me that is just as fitting of a burial as any pine box in the ground in a field of pine boxes. There is no disrespect, nor forgetting of their sacrifice, there.

We all have been horribily impacted by that day. I personally don't look for ways to be compensated for my little corner of hurt. I don't expect to forget anyone or anything or any feeling that nightmare of a day caused me. I can blame, but in reality, what does that get me? Justice was never mine to hand out, I leave that to the one that created us.

The road to peace, within ourselves OR the world is a long one. It requires forward movement. If we remain stagnate, they who wronged us win.

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Postby Lyon » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:50 pm

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Postby viper498 » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:07 am

Vidalia,

If you don't write professionally, you should. Very eloquently said indeed. Thanks for your perspective, of which I agree with.

Brock
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Postby Vidalia » Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:50 pm

Thanks Brock and no I don't write professionally I'm an emotionally driven chick who tends to be a tick on the long winded side! :lol: I have always spoken from the heart. I have strong opinions about a lot of things & had read that article a little while back myself. That which I posted in reply, was what I munched around in my head and came up with. Being a newbie here I'm still testing the waters so forgive me my little "goins on" as my Grandma use to call them.

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