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EXACTLY! Very astute! You're better at explaining what I mean than I am! Thanks!
To some degree this is a moot point. Hopefully they will soon base a drug on whatever the worms are doing to the immune system and illness or death due to parasites won't be an issue. Additionally, the biggest risk with the parasites which had originally been found our areas is over infestation. Considering that they became extinct in our populations because they couldn't complete their life cycle, over infestation isn't really a consideration.
Bob

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: From the Wash Post

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I like this its understandable

Because parasites often cause long-lasting infections, the researchers hypothesized that such infections could make persistent demands on the body and thereby reduce the likelihood that the immune system will attack healthy tissue.

Why? Would that be because they killed little jenny down the street with the cute smile & pig-tails.

No, I dont believe they are highly fatal, only to the people that die Its just easier to make cracks about it, than it is for you to mention that they arent little angels living just for us. But, the point is, some helminths have been known to cause death in humans; for that I am sure I have posted a link on another worm thread.

Its either that, or you have to keep putting up with my death march on all your post.

Thats what I thought, just didnt want to assume it.

As for survival rates, I think I can clear up my line of thought by using example numbers (which would equate to percentages...)


I can actually see the immune numbers going up, but doctors still wanting them out. If we had two groups of people (Group A & Group B) and only one group were infested with helminths (Group A), the original doctors MAY of found that:
In group A, over 1 year, 2 deaths were recorded, and only 1 Auto-immune condition was recorded. Now, in group B (uninfected) they recorded 1 death and 20 auto-immune cases. The reasearch / trials "primary end point" was recorded deaths, so in this study, the immune issues were not an issue, it was not an "end point". This is what I meant by that the deaths were not "spoiling the numbers" in group B; as they did with group A, who's gunna count who developed an itch when someone else has died. Just look at tysabri history for an example; and death wasnt reall even a "primary end point" to begin with.

ALSO, I think most doctors/companies would consider a death to be 10-30 times worse than a disease, so the single extra death really "bummed out" their statistics. ie The infected group had 200% the deaths observed in group B, while tingly skin aint so bad . Thats where yes, I can see that maybe time would prove their statistics to be biased due to their short observation period. It would also probably be hard to accurately measure peoples full life term with or without, as people who live in areas without parasites, also live with generaly better medical etc.

Thanks for explaining Cure, that's actually what I didn't understand.....what you meant by "bummed out"
Bob

Bob or anyone


Something seems wrong about this board. 400k people with MS equalling a serious health condition and to my count 6 to 8 people intersted enough to post I would think the number should be around a thousand..Why ? ... bad science ?

The parking lot test when looking for a place to get a beer

Thanks

There might be more people who use this site than you think but they are scattered among the various special interest forums. There also seem to be a lot of people who pop in from time to time just to see what's up. With over 3100 registered users there are surely some who signed up and never came back.

400k just in the US. As far as the vast majority are concerned, they are convinced that their doctor will tell them all they need to know.

Not 100% sure what you're getting at but I think you might mean that the roadhouse with the fullest parking lot is evidently "where it's at". Yeah, that would be here
Bob

There are many ms boards on the internet, each with their own "feel". Some fit others better. I know I dont post on the others. Also, I have been here quite some time, and you see people come and go. When they go, they dont unsually leave a reason. Maybe we need an "exit" thread like we have an "introductions" thread. Over my time, the people who have left, appear to have not found what they want from a board here, or were misdiagnosed.