This Is MS Multiple Sclerosis Community: Knowledge & Support

I just heard a good golf analogy, I was watching the golf channel and the were a couple pros talking about which is the best swing and the best grip to have to improve your game and one of said it doesn’t really matter as long as it gets the ball in the hole. I thought this really applies to ms as well, no matter what treatment you try as long as it honestly helps you there is no argument no matter what it is you try.

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Had ms for over 19 years now.

Redhair--I originally posted it under the natural treatment category. If you need it again, I will be glad to PM it to you (or what "I" remember! I don't have MS but I am OLD--LOL!!!!)

Robbie--GREAT analogy...and I could not agree more! Especially where the still-mysterious MS is concerned. My only thoughts are that an alternative treatment be safe and not cause bankruptcy! It was so funny (and kind of along the lines of your analogy), when I told my dentist about Suzy (he has been our family dentist for about 21 years), he asked what she took. I told him she took supplements, something I knew he could not support. He said, "Who the hell cares if it was Wombat Doo Doo...as long as it helped her!" (He is SO funny!) She also went to a new doctor yesterday--GYN. Told him about it and he said, "Praise the Lord!" Sometimes doctors can really surprise us, can't they?

Hope you all have a wonderful weekend! Chris

if ya could send it to me that would be great..thank you soooo much there chris and have a wonderful weekend

chris

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I found my daughter's post. (It really is wonderful!) If after reading it you need any additional information, please let me know!

I am coming here to share my story with you so that you may benefit from what I am doing also. I "accidentaly" found out about this treatment that I am doing now - and PRAISE GOD THAT I FOUND IT!!! I had my first MS symptoms in 1999. I then experienced what I know now were relapse of my MS for the following 5 years. I was diagnosed with RRMS on May 17, 2004. I then started copaxone. It was not a successful medication for me. I then found a different doctor and new medicines. I then started taking 1800 mgs of Neurontic, 600 mgs of Tegretol, 10 mgs of Adderhal, 20 mgs of Lexapro, 60 mgs of Cymbolta and Avonex. I slowly, but surely started to get a little better. From the time I was diagnosed I had three relaplapsees and three treatments of solumedrol. I have gained 75 pounds. I have gotten better but been TOTALLY sick for the past three years. More sick than I have ever imagined I could be and not be dead.

I own a dance studio and one of my students has an uncle that had cancer. He had been fighting his battle for 5 years and last January he was given until November to live. He had had all the radiation and chemo he could have in his life. He had also had a stem cell transplant. If he recieved any more traditional treatment - it would kill him. His mother ran into a lady in a public restroom at a restaurant who was talking about a doctor in the Netherlands who had cured her mom. His mom got the information and called the contact in Alanta Georgia immediately. Her son is now cancer free - for the first time in 5 years - his doctors were amazed and told him that they were shocked he was standing infront of them - they KNEW he would be dead by this time. So. I got the information about who to contact and I called. I thought that this would cost a fortune but I had to try it. I was prepared to sell my house, get loans, sell things - WHAT EVER IT TOOK. I was totally desperate and wanted my life back - like all of you do I am sure!!!!! Seven years ago I began to be zipped up in a body bag. I was stuck inside myself and couldn't get out. I remember when it started and the feeling of just loosing everything that was me. I had accepted that this was something that I would be living with for the rest of my life. And I was as okay with that as I could be. The "me" that I had know my whole life was gone. The new me was not what I wanted to be - but I obviously wasn't going to die from this diesase so I had to learn to live with it. I have been paying about $500.00 for symptom control medications and my shot a month. I ordered the kit to send a urine sample to the Netherlands. I ordered the "detox" kit called the TARGET PACK. Once my results returned I ordered two more bottles of supplements that were recommended by Dr. B. The total cost was $700.00 - WHAT???? - That is practically nothing!!!! I spend more than that in just two months of regular meds. Needless to say, I ordered it pronto - charged it to my creadit card - it arrived the next day and I started taking the supplements on June 4th.

Up until this point I was not able to feel my left hand at alllllllll. It had been numb for over 3 years. My right leg had a drag. My face on the left side had muscle spasms constantly. I had shocks running through my body contantly. I also had convultions running through out my body daily. I slept daily from around 11:00pm strait through until around 2:00 or 3:00 the next day. I then would get up, get dressed and then work from 4:00 - 9:00. Then I was back to bed. I had no energy. I lived on adderhal in order to get anything done. I couldn't remember anything - short term or long term.

I started my treatment on Sunday, June 4th. Two days later I was sitting in a chair and my cat jumped into my lap. I petted her - I COULD FEEL HER FURR - FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER THREE YEARS, I FELT HER FURR. With in two weeks I was feeling more and more like my self - my old real self! IT WAS THE MOST WONDERFUL WEIRD THING I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED!!!!!! Now, I have basically no symptoms of MS. I am off of all my traditional medications except 900 mgs of Neutontin and 20 mgs of Lexapro. I wake up pretty early every day and I stay up and active ALL day now. Everyday I am more and more like the "old" me! I haven't felt this good in years. I am getting my life back. And since I am able to not take so much medicine - I am savings money every month. In about two months I will have saved all the money that I spent on this treatment. THIS IS AN UNREAL FEELING!

So. After 7 years. 6 doctors. an endless amount of medcation and shots. I find this doctor in the Netherlands - slip some supplements under my touge everyday for a few weeks - I AM ALMOST TOTALLY SYMPTOM FREE! I can not even begin to tell you what this is like - it is just the most amazing thing I have ever experienced in my life - I am going to be myself again and I for all I am concerned, I am going to be MS FREE!!!

If you want to know how to get in touch with Vonner Health - just let me know!

Take Care!! - PYBGPOADWI

thank you very much

chris

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Did not mean for this to show up here...did mean to PM it--sorry!

LOL ITS OKAY IT HAPPENS

chris

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Wonder what ever happened to Chris55 and her daughter Suzy who found her cure?

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Had ms for over 19 years now.

Great news Chris55 -

I have two daughters with young families, and I worry evryday that they may get MS. Your delight in her fighting the disease and achieving a goal is recognized by me who delights in the achievements of my daughters on a daily basis.

The best
Sharon

I just wondered how she’s doing a couple years later.Time being so valuable in deciding fact or fiction.

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You know---I almost NEVER come to this site anymore! And I feel so guilty for the reason..my daughter continues to thrive. She (still) has never returned to her MS specialist. (She was to contact him ONLY if she had any problems.) She still has to take supplements from time to time and she definitely has to take care of her health. But MS problems?? Not!

I still think of all of you and include everyone here (and my daughter and ME) in my prayers. Love to you all--Chris

Hi Chris,

i am new to this forum and am not acquainted with your story, but from what I've been reading here : It's great!!! I love hearing such stories! They give me so much hope and make me feel so good! Let you and Suzi be healthy for many years to come!

I have a question - perhaps I don't understand well, but you/S're talking about Netherlands, and Georga at the same time...
Is it the same company just a different branch?
I live in Eu and am more intersted in Netherlands if I would be ordering smth.
And I couldn't understand, what are the supplements exactly that were so effective to your daughter?

Sorry, if you have put them here and have to repeat.

I tried the test and supplements as promoted by vonner and used by Chris55's daughter.

I am in Australia. I was sent a pack to send a urine sample back to the Netherlands for analysis. I think from memory, I may of even ordered it through the USA. After analysis they informed me I had an infection of some form (can't remember the details). They recommended a list of mostly sublingual supplements made from herbs & dried flowers &/or plants from their sister company Hegsii Research. After the suggested 3 months or so on the supplements, I had no attributable change to my Symptoms. They recommended I have another sample sent to the Netherlands for them to analyse and recommend the next batch of supplements. I chose not to continue sending money for this treatment.

As far as I can tell, all the work / products come from the netherlands.

Lion--the supplement treatment she did through a doctor in the Netherlands. Her MS specialist is in Ga. She lives in SC. She decided to give the treatment a try after the son of one of her grandparents in her dance school tried it and it stopped his cancer.

She now uses a location here in the US who partnered with the doctor from the Netherlands. As I said, she has had great success with her supplements. There are a few criteria that must be followed for the supplements to work (no coffee or caffeine of any kind, no mint, etc.)

I won't say she will never take conventional meds again but I do know she will try anything natural before ever going back on the MS meds she was on. This disease is like living with Russian Roulette...you never know what the next second is going to bring!

If I wanted to try the course Suzy took, I would first start with 2 bottles of the Streptocept and take a double dose (2 tablets 3 times a day). If after using the supplements up, I felt no different, I would not pursue. But if you experience any kind of improvement, I would continue.

I am a firm believer in healthy eating/living. I would eat as healthy as I could AND get some form of exercise every day...even if it is nothing more then pick up your foot 10 times.

Suzy had gained SO MUCH weight on her MS meds (from 104 to 180 lbs.) She has finally gone to a nutritionist--not to lose weight but to learn how to eat as healthy as she can. He is wonderful and has really helped her alot to eat correctly. She has also lost tons of weight but will not allow herself to be weighed (suggested by her nutritionist.)

This is such a personal disease and everyone has to do what is best for him/her. I spent hours/days/weeks/years researching this disease and came to my own conclusions. I was thrilled my daughter was willing to at least try something different. I support anything that will not kill you or cause you to mortgage your home and soul. I am forever humbled to God and Dr. B for her incredible improvements!

If I can help you in any way possible, please PM me anythime! Chris