A noble prize and the pharmas

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A noble prize and the pharmas

Postby Rita » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:03 am

In an Interview in “La Vanguardia” a daily newspaper in Barcelona, the awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine 1993 for his discovery of split genes Dr. Richard J. Roberts a Research Director at New England Biolabs, Beverly, Massachusetts, said “the big pharmas are not interested in find a cure they are just interested in money” so their interests are in medications for all your live (don't forget the side effects). “The pharmas left the antibiotic investigation because give a total cure” pointed. And finally said “Almost all the politicians - and I know what i'm talking about- depend blatantly on those pharmaceutical multinationals that finance their campaigns.”

He has a tetraplejic son. He knows this world as investigator and also as a father.

What do you think about that?. I was literally terrified. We have a lot of basic investigation, but what about their applications? Never? Could we do something about it?

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Postby mrhodes40 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:19 pm

Rita this is interesting to me but can you add a link to the article so we can read it ourselves?

Also as a comment of course the pharma does not fund research on antibiotics unless it is their own newly found and created antibiotic. Why would they do that?

Think of it this way, if you owned a running shoe factory and you if you were required to do studies on your shoes before putting them out that would be an expense you would have to bear as part of making shoes. You'd keep it to a minimum and only test the most likely shoes of course. But why would you spend money on a study on barefoot running?

The reason you did not study the bare foot runner was not that you wanted to force people to wear shoes but because it has nothing to do with you. You make shoes.

In the same way pharma is not avoiding antibiotics because it will cure people but because it is not their drug. They are treating based on the autoimmune model because there are lots of targets they can kill in the immune system with proprietary drugs. Plain and simple economics....

There is a huge boatload of evidence that atherosclerosis is actually a germ too, but they continue to make statin drugs to slow cholesterol because as long as there is an accepted theory that atheroclerosis is a problem with cholesterol they can make new drugs to address that.

You can go to "regimens" and read about people trying antibiotics ontheir own for MS--without pharma at all!
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Postby Rita » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:28 am

Of course mrhodes40, it is very interesting but is in Spanish:
http://www.lavanguardia.es/free/edicion ... 62760.html

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Re: A noble prize and the pharmas

Postby NHE » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:12 am

Rita wrote:Of course mrhodes40, it is very interesting but is in Spanish:

You can have Google translate the page so it's sort of readable.
http://tinyurl.com/2blndx

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Postby viper498 » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:37 am

Well in my opinion, Governments are going to have to accept the responsibility of some of this investigative work. This comes down to a moral and ethical issue where if you leave "cures" up to a company, it will always come down to the bottom line. It would be a conflict of interest (for the company) to even look to Big Pharma to develop a cure. It will have to be the people to influence gov't to take this on. I think that is the only way. God help us all if we still can't trust a gov't program to do the right thing.

Also, the gov't will have to pay the researchers handsomely, or else big pharma will "steal" them all.

Just my two cents.

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Postby TwistedHelix » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:25 am

That's exactly my opinion Brock. I've mentioned before that even though it's not possible to MAKE a fortune through generic drugs like antibiotics, governments can SAVE billions by reducing disease and disability in a society, and that amounts to the same thing. The trouble is, persuading politicians to see the long-term benefits, even financials ones, is not that easy,
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Postby gwa » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:14 am

Dom,

This is a real challenge when the politicians are provided funds by the pharmaceutical companies on an ongoing basis.


"The trouble is, persuading politicians to see the long-term benefits, even financial ones, is not that easy,"

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Postby viper498 » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:44 am

Well that is the problem with Humans now (and probably from the beginning). It seems that politics, and money drive decisions rather than humanity, and compassion for your fellow human.

It seems like it is a downward spiral. This goes so much farther than MS too. It affects millions, no billions of people, and the benefits/gains are only to be had by a handful of very rich. It really is sad and discouraging. *Sigh*. Lets hope there are still some good people out there that want to truly, selflessly help. ??

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Postby Rita » Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:50 am

The politicians are not going to change their mind unless people force them to do it, if they see that we are arranged to punish them with the vote, that this is an important thing, maybe they change about the importance of the health of his citizens. And not only EM people, all kind of sick people.

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