CONGRATULATIONS ART!

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CONGRATULATIONS ART!

Postby Lyon » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:50 pm

By the way, congratulations Art!

This from the Sept. 2007 "Health Informatics Journal" article "Assessing the quality of websites providing information on multiple sclerosis: evaluating tools and comparing sites"
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One quarter of the websites scored zero according to the IQ Tool because they either did
not disclose authorship or did not provide contact details for the author. No website scored
perfect marks of 100, but two websites, Boston Cure and All About Multiple Sclerosis,
were just one ‘yes’ response short, with both only failing to score top marks because one
of the questions, about the security of personal information, was not applicable. The rest
of the scores ranged from 40.2 to 88.4 per cent.


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Re: CONGRATULATIONS ART!

Postby NHE » Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:36 am

Hi Lyon,
I can't seem to get to the full paper from the abstract but it would be great if you could let us all know how ThisIsMS faired if it was included in the analysis.

Thanks, NHE
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Postby Lyon » Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:28 am

Hi NHE,
I tried to copy and paste the graph of their results, but it's a pdf file and the format wouldn't transfer correctly.

I didn't see "thisisms" mentioned at all, not even among the sites considered.

When you look at the list of references the authors used, thisisms wasn't among them, and without inferring any negativity towards thisisms, it seems there might be good reason. The foremost reason for thisisms not even being a consideration (it seems to me) probably regards membership in thisisms not really booming until the last year or so, it seems that the real work in this study was done before then.

Additionally, when you look at the latter part of the references, it seems they've listed the websites which were among the considerations of the authors. I'm not familiar with all those sites but I got the idea they were looking for sites which specifically post medically accepted information about MS.

It seems the whole idea of thisisms is that most members are already familiar with the "medically accepted" opinions and use the thisisms site to determine whether they agree with the medically accepted opinions and/or to discuss alternative outlooks. I don't think anyone here WANTS the medically accepted theories posted on this site so maybe thisisms will never be a consideration for this type of study.

I'm at work and admittedly don't have my reading glasses, I don't see thisisms listed anywhere below but please correct me if I'm wrong.
Bob

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Postby jimmylegs » Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:48 am

nope thisisms isn't in there, but i have a full text pdf copy if anyone wants one. and yea i'd say it's definitely missing some interesting sites but i haven't read it to look at how they scoped the resources being considered.

i also took a screen shot of the table but i forgot you need a URL for adding images to these posts so never mind :)
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Postby Lyon » Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:08 pm

jimmylegs wrote: i also took a screen shot of the table but i forgot you need a URL for adding images to these posts so never mind :)
Hi jimmy, you should teach me how to do screen shots.

If you have the time you could add that screen shot to your photobucket site so that it has a url :wink: I saw the "Greek Goddess" pic, so I know you can do it.

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Re: CONGRATULATIONS ART!

Postby NHE » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:01 pm

Lyon wrote:I tried to copy and paste the graph of their results, but it's a pdf file and the format wouldn't transfer correctly.

In my version of Adobe Acrobat, I hold down the text select tool button which brings up other options and then select the 'Graphics Select Tool'. Next, drag a graphics select box around the image in the pdf. Right click on it and choose copy.

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As an alternative, use 'Alt+Print Screen' to copy the entire window on a windows system. This copies an image of the window to the clipboard which can then be pasted into an image editing application such as Photoshop, Gimp, PaintShopPro, or whatever and edited. Saving the file in the gif format (or as a 16 color png file if the image is fairly plain) will help to reduce the size compared to a jpg file and will facilitate transfers. Note, if you want the whole desktop and not just the current window then just use 'Print Screen' by itself.

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Postby jimmylegs » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:27 pm

lol lyon i so do not remember how i put the greek goddess up. will have to revisit the post and check out the url.

ya what nhe describes for non-acrobat scenarios (alt-printscreen) is how i screenshot. i hit print screen and then ctrl-v it into paint - i'm usually on a pretty low-tech machine these days. then you can play with it to resize, recentre, and trim as needed. then yes save as jpg if/when reduced file size is best.
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Postby jimmylegs » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:37 pm

re img urls: oooooooooh i let that site's dns registration lapse a long time ago. no more greek goddess, so sad. suppose i could blog the screen shot but that whole idea smacks of effort. think i'll stick with the lazy theme for this week :)
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Postby Lyon » Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:02 pm

Yeah, Thanks a lot for the help guys :evil:

That was harder than crap and the ordeal probably scarred me for life!

NHE must have the nice version of acrobat because I had to sluff my way through all those steps which should have required a college degree.
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Postby viper498 » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:02 pm

Wow.... Thisisms should have been at the top of this list, and yet it isn't even on it. Is this ranking sponsored by Big Pharma? ;-)
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Postby Lyon » Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:28 am

Good question Brock, I hadn't thought to look.

They were looking for easily available stockpiles of "medically accepted" information and thisisms seems to be a place for people to discuss ALL of the options.
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This work was supported by a Social Sciences and Humanities Research Grant and Canada Research Chairs Program Grant to the first author.
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Postby jimmylegs » Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:54 am

righty-o then, who's writing the letter to the editor in response?
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Postby Lyon » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:59 am

jimmylegs wrote:righty-o then, who's writing the letter to the editor in response?
:oops: But I don't see this as a slight to thisisms.

Their study was titled "Assessing the quality of websites providing information on multiple sclerosis" and I'm not sure thisisms was intended to "provide" information, but instead provides a forum to discuss MS.

What they were looking for were places which provided "medically accepted" information about MS. I think you have to admit that not only isn't there a stockpile of medically accepted MS information on this site (nor was it ever intended), but very people at this site follow the "straight and narrow".

I'm not sure what there is to complain to the editor about...that thisisms wasn't mentioned in a study which wasn't looking for this type of website?

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Postby jimmylegs » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:54 pm

hmm, personally i viewed a letter to the editor as an opportunity to elaborate, but if it would automatically be seen as something negative, maybe not.
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Postby Lyon » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:02 pm

Hi jimmy, I jumped to the conclusion that it would be kind of negative. I don't mean to put words in the mouths of the people involved in the study and it would be interesting to hear their response.
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