Accupuncture?

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Postby HarryZ » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:51 pm

You lose respect for someone because they have the courage to say something they know won't be well received?


No, I lose respect for someone who makes unprofessional, unsubstantiated and uncalled for comments based out of ignorance and without knowing much about what he is talking about. Pretty simple, isn't it, Bob?!!
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Postby eowc » Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:41 pm

No, I lose respect for someone who makes unprofessional, unsubstantiated and uncalled for comments based out of ignorance and without knowing much about what he is talking about. Pretty simple, isn't it, Bob?!!




Well, obviously anyone with the slightest amount of general rather than professional medical knowledge would definitely realise and know that MS is a progressively neuro-degenerative disease with no known conclusive cures (except for other effective reliefs and improvements to this disorder) available at the present moment. And just like such other very much more severe neuro-degenerative diseases like senile dementia, Alzheimers, Parkinsonism etc, and well, if such very much more chronic neuro-degenerative disorders can be 100% fully cured, a definite total cure for MS would have been found and invented long time ago.
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Giving healthcares - To save lives ? For money ?

Postby eowc » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:51 am

Giving healthcares - To save lives ? For money ?




Well then & anyway, what is the main, primary & undisputed purpose of giving and providing health cares to the ones needing them in the first place ? To save lives or solely for money-making alone ? By the way, anyone would certainly agree that the very fundamental and basic concepts of giving health cares are always indispensably inseparable, inalienable, and in tandem with all the inherently first & foremost humane principles of humanities ,humanitarianism and the very unquestionably primary priority of saving lives.



Next, in conjunction with the points made above, kindly consider the following quotations :




Quote:



"I think Actually these persons distributed nearly the identical sore know-how as me from such debilitating sickness and for your data, there were numerous of them who were not so well-to-do, and therefore they could not pay for such costly health accounts of glimpsing the health experts or to get Botox injections / surgical remedy to deal with their non-stop eyelid-twitching problems. Therefore, when I suggested such an acupuncture method to them, I did it out of benevolent humanity, understanding and compassion, and express gratitude God that it worked on each and every individual of them."






- which are excerpted from the webpages as follows :



http://www.drugs.com/forum/alternative- ... 571-2.html (Please refer to post no.49)



http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1874624 (Kindly Support These Charity & Humanitarian Causes)



Well, in respect of the bold characters of the remark highlighted above, naturally and rationally all the kind and benevolent persons would earnestly hope that the doctors of the modern medical world today will eventually come to realize one day that practicing medicine is simply, mainly and definitely not about profiteering and money-making alone. Anyway, as human beings ourselves, the principles of humanitarian concepts, humanity, conscience etc, well, they simply should not be ignored or deliberately compromised for the sake of money-making especially when it comes to the issue of medical conscience of the doctors practicing medicines of which its key, primary & undisputed purpose is mostly about saving human lives rather than making money to enrich themselves.



Further Information :



http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1233341 (Free-of-Charge, Simple, Self-administered, Needle-free, Painless & Harmless Acupuncture / Acupressure Cure Meant For Speedy Relief & Final 100 % Once-and-for-all Full & Complete Cure & Recovery For Blepharospasm / Chronic, Rapid, Uncontrollable, Purposeless Eyelid Twitching / Eye Blinking)



http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/aama_ ... ster1.html (Official Details About Medical Findings About The Efficacy of Acupuncture Cure For Chronic Eyelid Twitching / Eye Blinking)



Lastly, I sincerely hope that the related information included through the website above would be supported by the related kind and benevolent readers and other individuals so as to eventually bring forth the related humanely positive changes universally for the sakes of the better and better health cares, welfare and well-beings of anyone seeking treatments from any doctors. As such, kindly support all these charity and humanitarian causes.
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Re: Accupuncture?

Postby eowc » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:19 pm

Animals' Lives Are More Precious Than Human Lives ? What Says You ?



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Quotation :
"However, as mentioned in my related previous post, as to the poor and needy ones directly got kicked out of the clinics, medical premises, etc simply for the reason that they cannot afford the required expensive medical cares, and hey, since humanities can be extended to the animals, then why just humanities simply cannot be afforded to the human beings who are poor and needy ? "
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Full Article :


http://forum.mind-energy.net/traditiona ... icine.html
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Re: Well,

Postby MarkLavelle » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:03 pm

eowc wrote:And just like such other very much more severe neuro-degenerative diseases like senile dementia, Alzheimers, Parkinsonism etc, and well, if such very much more chronic neuro-degenerative disorders can be 100% fully cured, a definite total cure for MS would have been found and invented long time ago.
Not everyone believes that the human body is that simple.

RRMS dx 3/3/11; Copaxone since 12/1/11
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Re: Accupuncture?

Postby eowc » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:15 am

Not everyone believes that the human body is that simple.




Yup, that's simply the 100 % unvarnished truth. Well, unlike the microorganisms and other minute insects with very simple biological structures, human bodies are very much far more complex & complicated, and that's the reason why many important cells and organs are unable to regenerate themselves once they are totally damaged or seriously destroyed. For a very simple example, apart from the brain cells, neurons, nerve cells, nerve fibers etc, one's broken limbs simply cannot grow again like fingernails once they are fully gone.
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Key Summary of This Post

Postby eowc » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:17 am

eowc wrote:In addition to that, well, basically, acupuncture is the traditional Chinese methodology of the insertion of very fine needles into specific points on the body to relieve various ailments.


Well, basic principles as stipulated above generally is one thing which, under most of the circumstances are hardly disputable. Nevertheless, there would always be an exception to these fundamental rules, especially the one which would turn out to be immeasurably and prodigiously beneficial to numerous needy persons.




Articles About Self-administered, Simple, Needle-free, Free-Of-Charge, Painless, Harmless, Speedy & Once-and-for-all Acupuncture / Acupressure Cure For Non-stop Persistent Tardive Dyskinesia / Medication-induced Rapid Eyelid-twitching / Eye-blinking / Blepharospasm


http://www.thisisms.com/ftopic-4919-0.html

Lastly, I sincerely hope that the related articles included in this post would turn out to be informatively and therapeutically useful to the numerous others.






Key Summary of This Post:


http://www.telmedpak.com/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=6782&p=2
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Re: Accupuncture?

Postby eowc » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:00 am

Healthcare - A Luxury or Necessity ?



"I think Actually these persons distributed nearly the identical sore know-how as me from such debilitating sickness and for your data, there were numerous of them who were not so well-to-do, and therefore they could not pay for such costly health accounts of glimpsing the health experts or to get Botox injections / surgical remedy to deal with their non-stop eyelid-twitching problems. Therefore, when I suggested such an acupuncture method to them, I did it out of benevolent humanity, understanding and compassion, and express gratitude God that it worked on each and every individual of them."

which are quoted from :

http://www.drugs.com/forum/alternative- ... 571-2.html (Please refer to Post No : 49)

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1673772#i




Well, on all humanitarian & humanity grounds let's just hope that the underlying life-saving functions of healthcare would not just simply end up as a mere luxury of the affordable ones to the pathetic extent that the indigent, poor and needy ones are simply and totally getting systematically deprived of it due to the very sheer reason of unaffordability.

http://www.healthlinks.net/forum/ubbthr ... s#Post1121
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Re: Accupuncture?

Postby ljelome » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:09 am

I had accupunture too before knowing i had MS, it happened on my journey to find my illness.
After i gave up all medications that didn't improve my symptomps, i used alternative treatment which are accupunture, massaging, heat stimulation, "bad blood removal" (i don't know what term to be used), I had only 4 sessions just for a month, and that's all. Though it didn't help much in improving my symptomps, but i noticed a difference in my strength. I think accupunture does help in stimulating the nervous system, like the cortical remapping helps in reducing numbness, here's the link to cortical remapping:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtnilpNodHg

Also the heat stimulation and blood removal maybe it helps in improving blood circulation (regarding to CCSVI theory).

Well, our body is really amazing thing and there is nothing impossible if we believe.

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"For a very simple example, apart from the brain cells, neurons, nerve cells, nerve fibers etc, one's broken limbs simply cannot grow again like fingernails once they are fully gone."

I think fingernails still can grow after being fully gone, coz it happened to me after my right hand index fingernail taken off.

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Neurological & Neuro-degenerative Disorders of Extrapyramida

Postby eowc » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:59 am

eowc wrote:
Not everyone believes that the human body is that simple.




Yup, that's simply the 100 % unvarnished truth. Well, unlike the microorganisms and other minute insects with very simple biological structures, human bodies are very much far more complex & complicated, and that's the reason why many important cells and organs are unable to regenerate themselves once they are totally damaged or seriously destroyed. For a very simple example, apart from the brain cells, neurons, nerve cells, nerve fibers etc, one's broken limbs simply cannot grow again like fingernails once they are fully gone.



And I would like to add that all the normal bodily functions of human beings such as cognitive / thinking abilities, miscellaneous bodily movements etc are run and co-ordinated by neurons, brain cells etc through a variety of bodily neurological networks of miscellaneous nervous systems and the related synaptic activities. As such, please refer to the follows for the related details:


http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1696881#i (Miscellaneous Nervous Systems, Neurotransmitters & Synaptic Activities)


http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2051549#i (Neurological & Neuro-degenerative Disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) Carried By Antipsychotics / Neuroleptics That Interfere With The Miscellaneous Nervous Systems & Synaptic Activities - Detailed Explanations)
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Side Effects of Neurological & Neurodegenerative Disorders o

Postby eowc » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:54 am

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Side Effects of Neurological & Neurodegenerative Disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) Caused By Antipsychotics / Neuroleptics – Full Details



Well as mentioned in my previous post about such dopamine antagonists medications of antipsychotics & neuroleptics which invariably and inevitably all carry such seriously irreversible cognitively-damaging neurological and neurodegenerative side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) that include such disastrously while irreversibly serious, and yet cognitive-impairing and miscellaneous movements disorders as akinesia , Tardive dyskinesia , akathisia , acute dystonic reactions, neuroleptic malignant syndrome (NMS) , and in the worst case scenario, the seriously incurable neuro-degenerative disorder of pseudoparkinsonism such as the ones fully detailed through the weblinks below :



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_antagonist (Dopamine antagonist)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapyramidal_symptoms (Extrapyramidal Symptoms)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia (Akathisia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardive_dyskinesia (Tardive Dyskinesia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurolepti ... t_syndrome (Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystonia (Dystonia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinesia (Akinesia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoparkinsonism (Parkinsonism)

then such dopamine antagonist medications, given their irreversibly disastrous EPS side effects, hence should not be taken totally thoughtlessly unaware, especially in terms of their dosages, durations of treatments, etc, or maybe even unnecessarily in certain cases over the long-term without any discretionary precautions being taken at all against the potential manifestations of any of their disastrous neurological / neurodegenerative side effects as mentioned above.


And in all cases, such dopamine antagonist medications simply should not be overly relied upon to the point of sheer abuses . In short, it is simply undisputed that antipsychotics / neuroleptics alone are simply not the perfect or the only one & single solution to any cognitive disorders.


Whilst the ones attending to and treating these cognitively impaired persons, at least by their natural humanely moral responsibilities & medically ethical obligations should all be fully aware of such issue so as to do whatever they can to safeguard them against all these seriously irreversible cognitively-damaging neurological and neurodegenerative side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) at least on both humanity & humanitarian grounds.


Afterall, naturally and reasonably the tasks & duties of these medical personnel would be, such as naturally & reasonably expected by anyone, to do whatever they can on a well-informed and fully skillful & thoughtful basis to make sure that the medical conditions of these people they treat and attend to get better and better gradually from time to time and simply not from bad to worse.


Next, whilst such antipsychotics / neuroleptics remain essential in treating the related cognitively impaired ones, reasonably anyone would believe that as long as well-informed knowledge about both the upsides and downsides of these medications are known, whereby they are being used accordingly & solely for curative and therapeutic purposes with all the necessary precautions taken against the potential manifestations of their unwanted side effects at the same time, then the expected advantages derived from these medications would most probably outweigh their unexpected and undesirable disadvantages.
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Re: Accupuncture?

Postby centenarian100 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:51 am

ljelome wrote:I think fingernails still can grow after being fully gone, coz it happened to me after my right hand index fingernail taken off.


Haha.

I also had a toenail grow back after being completely gone.
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Re: Well,

Postby centenarian100 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:58 am

eowc wrote:Well, obviously anyone with the slightest amount of general rather than professional medical knowledge would definitely realise and know that MS is a progressively neuro-degenerative disease with no known conclusive cures (except for other effective reliefs and improvements to this disorder) available at the present moment. And just like such other very much more severe neuro-degenerative diseases like senile dementia, Alzheimers, Parkinsonism etc, and well, if such very much more chronic neuro-degenerative disorders can be 100% fully cured, a definite total cure for MS would have been found and invented long time ago.


How do you know that in the distant future these diseases won't have cures?

There are many diseases which previously did not have highly effective treatments but now have curative or highly effective treatments.

One example: promyelocytic leukemia

Want an example from neurodegenerative disease? How about wilson's disease (copper chelation therapy) or subacute combined dengeneration (B12 supplementation) or zinc toxicity leading to copper deficiency (cessation of inciting agent, copper supplementation), various glycogen storage diseases, sphingolipidoses, mucopolysaccharidoses (supplementation of the missing enzyme) and so forth.

Obviously, some disorders present unique challenges, but none of us can predict the future.
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Re: Accupuncture?

Postby Azaeleaprawn » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:18 pm

Colleen - I had acupuncture for lower back pain that extended into my leg (sciatica like) that has essentially eradicated the pain. this treatment was done by a physio/acupuncture practitioner at the local MS Society who has been working specifically with MS patients for a number of years and is very aware of how to treat persons with MS as it's quite different to those without MS.
However I also had treatment done by the same person for an MS Hug type pain that gave me short term relief, which at the time was wonderful, but which in the long run didn't last.
So with my success with treating that back pain that I'd had for years I'd say it is a very worthwhile avenue of treatment to investigate but definitely find someone who has experience with MS.
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