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Drug Company Documentary

Postby jimmylegs » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:24 am

Pharmaceutical Fraud? Prescription for Disaster Documentary
http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2007 ... saster.htm

i imagine someone's already posted this on here somewhere, but if so i didn't catch it.
i found it by googling multiple sclerosis scam pharmaceutical. haven't watched it yet, but plan to. you have to scroll about halfway down to find the video itself.

i'm sure it's nothing we don't all basically know already, but yea. here it is anyway :)
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Postby gwa » Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:50 am

This video is well worth the hour and half that it takes to watch. I don't think that there is a lot of new information about the influence of Pharmaceutical companies have, but it is presented nicely.

Yesterday I saw a news blurb on the television which announced that some pediatricians were now prescribing cholesterol lowering drugs to young children.

The children in the video were shoveling French fries and chicken nuggets down their throats and washing it down with a large sugary coke. It is such a simple avenue to just cut out the crap food and put a balanced diet in front of the kids so that they don't get obese and have high cholesterol.

Instead, the pharma companies are now pushing statins on children, for life.

It is an absurd situation about to happen.

Also, the FDA announced yesterday that Cipro would have to have a warning box because it can cause sore tendons in some people. I have known for years that Cipro caused tendons to snap, sometimes as long as 6 months after the last dose.

Also, the family of floxins which Cipro is part of, raises interferon gamma levels and should not be taken by anyone with MS or other autoimmune diseases. This is old news and the FDA is just now getting around to alerting the consumer.

I guess the jist of the video is that we should be responsible for our own health and not leave the responsibility to others that may have financial gains as their top priority.

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Postby robbie » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:23 am

Instead, the pharma companies are now pushing statins on children, for life.

It is an absurd situation about to happen.

it is really something to think that this would be considered, what a world.
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:10 am

it is a ridiculous situation! agreed re: responsibility.
i am so glad i am not putting $20,000 per year in pfizer's pockets!!
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Postby ssmme » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:38 pm

Also, the family of floxins which Cipro is part of, raises interferon gamma levels and should not be taken by anyone with MS or other autoimmune diseases. This is old news and the FDA is just now getting around to alerting the consumer.


I took Cipro for a long time about 2 years before being dx'd w/ms. I was having chronic bladder infections NOT uti's. I have still taken Cipro when I've had additional ones but maybe I should look for an alternative. I have a "dropped" kidney which doesn't drain properly and causes the kidney infections regardless of how much water/cranberry juice/liquid that I drink. I used to take bactrim for my acne - it's a sulfa drug I think. I've been told it's used to treat uti's. What other alternative abx is there to take for bladder infections. I'm allergic to penicillins.


I know the Cipro didn't cause my ms but it sure might have aggravated my condition and I didn't even know it.

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Postby jimmylegs » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:11 pm

alternatives that i have used to GREAT EFFECT, for UTI not bladder however, after having abx chronically overprescribed, were acidophilus and uva ursi (antimicrobial) tea.
i'm trying to find some info that distinguishes btw UTI and bladder infection in terms of different natural remedies, with no particular luck. they seem to be bundled, as it were :)
another quite powerful antimicrobial is oil of oregano. get capsules not the straight oil if you try this. it is pungent.
depending where you are, you may also be interested in olive leaf extract which has these properties: antibacterial, antifungal and anti-inflammatory. it also is supposed to be an extremely powerful antioxidant. and it tastes good i had a bottle of it in australia.
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Postby gwa » Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:37 pm

ssmme wrote:
Also, the family of floxins which Cipro is part of, raises interferon gamma levels and should not be taken by anyone with MS or other autoimmune diseases. This is old news and the FDA is just now getting around to alerting the consumer.


I used to take bactrim for my acne - it's a sulfa drug I think. I've been told it's used to treat uti's. What other alternative abx is there to take for bladder infections. I'm allergic to penicillins.


I know the Cipro didn't cause my ms but it sure might have aggravated my condition and I didn't even know it.

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I take Bactrim for bladder infections. My records show that I will not take Cipro or any floxin. Some doctors have asked me why I won't take them, which is just unbelievable to me. It shows that they have no idea about all of the side effects of Cipro. All a person with MS needs is for their tendons to snap.

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Antibiotics and ruptured tendons

Postby lyndacarol » Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:55 pm

It's even better than you wrote, GWA:

"Also, the FDA announced yesterday that Cipro would have to have a warning box because it can cause sore tendons in some people. I have known for years that Cipro caused tendons to snap, sometimes as long as 6 months after the last dose.'

Cipro gets a black box warning!

And the primary tendon to rupture is the Achilles tendon. Talk about footdrop and walking problems then!!!
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Postby jimmylegs » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:39 am

Some doctors have asked me why I won't take them, which is just unbelievable to me. It shows that they have no idea about all of the side effects of Cipro.

it's the pharmacists who are on top of all that stuff, i believe.
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Postby gwa » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:49 am

jimmylegs wrote:
Some doctors have asked me why I won't take them, which is just unbelievable to me. It shows that they have no idea about all of the side effects of Cipro.

it's the pharmacists who are on top of all that stuff, i believe.


That is a true statement, but how many patients know to quiz their doctors about prescriptions they are given?

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Postby jimmylegs » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:18 am

their pharmacists? i don't know, i do get the impression of seeing ads talking about how patients should talk to their pharmacists, i wasn't paying much attention but i have the impression they are govt sponsored ads? but it's only a vague memory and who knows what the deal is in other parts of the country/world.

i would say that if most people are like i was, you have this blind faith in the doc's good hands right up until you get sick. then you either go for the drugs in a panic (which i was like at first til the shock wore off), or you realize all bets are off and it's just you and a mountain of information to sift through to find your own path through it all. then you start to wonder about the doc. but i guess most people who are managing chronic stuff with meds are still in the blind faith department. for now.

drugs are great. i have a friend who was medicated for depression for years, then she has so many antidepressants in her system she has a manic episode, and surprise! new diagnosis, bipolar. gee i wonder how that happened. :roll:
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Postby cheerleader » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:23 am

Thanks for this, JL. Good discussion.
I turned down Ritalin for my kid...used diet and nutrition, instead. My pediatrician laughed at me and said I'd be sorry. Now we're hearing about all the side effects of Ritalin, and my kid's outgrown his ADHD and is an honor student. Hmmmmm...

Our neighbor was high up in the ranks of a large pharma company. I mentioned to her how happy I was that her company was working towards curing disease (this was before Jeff's dx.) She laughed, and said..."oh, we're not working on cures. We want to find something you'll have to take the rest of your life!"

That said, Jeff is on Copaxone. Is it doing anything? Damned if we know, but we're too afraid not to use it.
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Postby jimmylegs » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:17 pm

no probs cheer. the mainstreamers are so cynical! i remember reporting on the success of acidophilus on my urinary symptoms, and the nurse practitioner told me it was coincidence. and the throat specialist i saw recently just looked blankly at me when i mentioned magnesium. they have no clue. good for you with the ritalin-busting! and yes, sometimes it is too scary to risk not taking something. or just too annoying. i'm working on my skin issues, but in the meantime i'd probably lose it without a prescription ointment.
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