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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:01 pm 
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Loobie mentioned this in his LoobieDoobie’s CCSVI stuff
thread on the CCSVI forum, and it raised questions in my mind. I did not want to interrupt the conversation, so I decided to make a new thread.
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“Since I can't catcher's squat, I bend at the waist to get things like pots and pans from the lower cupboards. Well that would ALWAYS, without exception, cause the following: vision would "close in" (seeing stars and get tunnely), I would swoon upon getting back straight, and it would invariably start to get me dizzy, and once that trigger was tripped, my day usually couldn't be regained. Well I don't feel that at all right now. I bend over and just straighten back up. No vision pulsing, no heartbeat throbbing in my eyesight, so I think I had back up in the head for sure.
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I do almost all my gardening work and many other activities in the bending over position, but I do not get the swooning, dizzy sensations that he described.

However, I cannot remember a time when I could not see my pulse -- my heartbeat throbbing in my eyesight. If I look at the ceiling or at a light-colored, blank wall, I can easily see my pulse and even the premature atrial contractions that sometimes occur.

Is this unusual? Does anyone else here have a visual pulse at all times?

I wonder if this is common, or if it may be due to improper venous drainage? In any case, considering the role of venous drainage in MS, I should probably find another position in which to do my planting and weeding!

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I get that a lot, plus I get episodes of when spiders (I call them spiders) come down over my eyes until they occlude my vision.
I have just been dx with having stenosed jugular veins so maybe there is a connection


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Does it happen only when you bend over? or at any time?
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I get that a lot, plus I get episodes of when spiders (I call them spiders) come down over my eyes until they occlude my vision.
I have just been dx with having stenosed jugular veins so maybe there is a connection


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Happens if I get up too quickly, if I bend over and get up too quickly, sometimes in the morning when I wake up, and if I exercise and raise my heart rate too much.


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But you do not see your pulse if you are just sitting quietly and literally staring at the wall? :?
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Happens if I get up too quickly, if I bend over and get up too quickly, sometimes in the morning when I wake up, and if I exercise and raise my heart rate too much.


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yes when I am having bad days. I also notice it at night. I haven't got it right now though. I have had some improvements with these sx from LDN and abx and supplements.


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Thank you for your input.

Does anyone else have a heartbeat throbbing in their eyesight all the time?


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