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Postby Loobie » Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:43 am

Good point Ken.
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Postby cheerleader » Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:03 pm

This five minute video sums it up pretty well.....
Worth the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKI9be55N00
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Postby peekaboo » Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:36 pm

I like the video...I'm going to email it to my friends etc. Thanks Cheer
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Postby Loobie » Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:57 pm

8O 8O I can't STAND UHC. If you all remember, they called me and told me "sir, your cost is $0 out of pocket". I got the persons name and extension number. Biogen also gave me the same scoop from UHC that it was $0 out of pocket and they even have to call twice! So armed with the exact times, the employee name who told me all that and everything I thought I would get reimbursed. I have filed appeal after appeal and this whole time I'm still paying down a $2,500 dollar bill for 4 infusions of Tysabri that I never would have even taken had I known that they were lying. And I bet there isn't a chance in hell I get that back. They actually told me a bald faced lie, I had the person's name and even told them going forward I would pay the increased price (knowing that I was about to switch ins.) and they still have not and probably will not pay a dime. It's stories like that which make your blood boil. I'm in good enough shape it won't bankrupt me, but what about some of those families in the video? Man I can't imagine. I was done on this thread and only lurking and throwing in one liners, but that video just pissed me off all over again at UHC. Especially all the stuff they roll at the end. Pause it and take it all in, and I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg.

They have you by the shorthairs and they know it. This wasn't even a denial of the claim like in the stories. This was just them saying I owe nothing and then telling CVS they needed to collect over $500 each from me for the infusions. The company I'm having to pay is CVS and they only have an open invoice and don't care about the backstory. So UHC knows that they can just go away and if you don't pay, your credit is ruined but they don't even have to chase you down and spend any resources collecting it like CVS does. Makes me CRAZY watching that 8O 8O
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Postby cheerleader » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:54 pm

Lew...I'd forgotten your United Health Care nightmare. That's what we're talking about. This company does not want the health care bill to pass. They have already spent 12.6 million dollars fighting the bill. Money that could have been spent on helping sick people. People were denied coverage after purchasing insurance, because the insurance companies must make a profit. Making billions of dollars at the expense of peoples' lives is criminal and immoral, and needs to be stopped.

Here are the CEOs of the major healthcare companies and their salaries:
http://sickforprofit.com/ceos/
You can share your story anonymously on the website, Lew, under "patient's stories."

I do not know how any of these human beings sleep at night.
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Postby Chris55 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:27 am

Peekaboo---i worked for several years for our state senate. Bills are being revised constantly! Sen. Spector referenced that at his recent town hall meeting--the fact that they get updated versions of the 1000 page health care bill. That is not unusual at all in gov't. Nothing illegal or secretive about it--just the legislative process.
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Postby peekaboo » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:21 am

Thanks Chris55 - That is scary if they can' t keep track. hopefully they have revision numbers
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Postby robbie » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:32 am

Money that could have been spent on helping sick people.

took Obamma 180 million just to get him into office, it's a heathy world and if your not get out you pocket book.
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Postby peekaboo » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:58 am

Dear Friend,

Anyone that's watched the news in the past few days knows that health insurance reform is a hot topic — and that rumors and scare tactics have only increased as more people engage with the issue. Given a lot of the outrageous claims floating around, it’s time to make sure everyone knows the facts about the security and stability you get with health insurance reform.

That’s why we’ve launched a new online resource — WhiteHouse.gov/RealityCheck — to help you separate fact from fiction and share the truth about health insurance reform. Here's a few of the reality check videos you can find on the site:

CEA Chair Christina Romer details how health insurance reform will impact small businesses.
Domestic Policy Council Director Melody Barnes tackles a nasty rumor about euthanasia and clearly describes how reform helps families.
Matt Flavin, the White House's Director of Veterans and Wounded Warrior Policy, clears the air about Veteran's benefits.
Kavita Patel, M.D., a doctor serving in the White House's Office of Public Engagement, explains that health care rationing is happening right now and how reform gives control back to patients and doctors.
Bob Kocher, M.D., a doctor serving on the National Economic Council, debunks the myth that health insurance reform will be financed by cutting Medicare benefits.
There's more information and a number of online tools you can use to spread the truth among your family, friends and other social networks. Take a look:



We knew going into this effort that accomplishing comprehensive health insurance reform wasn't going to be easy. Achieving real change never is. The entrenched interests that benefit from the status quo always use their influence in Washington to try and keep things just as they are.

But don't be misled. We know the status quo is unsustainable. If we do nothing, millions more Americans will be denied insurance because of pre-existing conditions, or see their coverage suddenly dropped if they become seriously ill. Out-of-pocket expenses will continue to soar, and more and more families and businesses will be forced to deal with health insurance costs they can’t afford.

That's the reality.

Americans deserve better. You deserve a health care system that works as well for you as it does for the status quo; one you can depend on — that won't deny you coverage when you need it most or charge you crippling out-of-pocket co-pays. Health insurance reform means guaranteeing the health care security and stability you deserve.

President Barack Obama promised he'd bring change to Washington and fix our broken, unsustainable health insurance system. You can help deliver that change. Visit WhiteHouse.gov/RealityCheck, get the facts and spread the truth. The stakes are just too high to do nothing.

Thank you,
David

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Postby Lyon » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:21 am

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Postby robbie » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:08 pm

Had ms for over 19 years now.
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