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A New Treatment

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This sounds like it could be quite promising "forces the disease into remission in mice"
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 081109.php
A new experimental treatment for multiple sclerosis (MS) completely reverses the devastating autoimmune disorder in mice, and might work exactly the same way in humans, say researchers at the Jewish General Hospital Lady Davis Institute for Medical Research and McGill University in Montreal.

MS is an autoimmune disease in which the body's own immune response attacks the central nervous system, almost as if the body had become allergic to itself, leading to progressive physical and cognitive disability.

The new treatment, appropriately named GIFT15, puts MS into remission by suppressing the immune response. This means it might also be effective against other autoimmune disorders like Crohn's disease, lupus and arthritis, the researchers said, and could theoretically also control immune responses in organ transplant patients. Moreover, unlike earlier immune-supppressing therapies which rely on chemical pharamaceuticals, this approach is a personalized form of cellular therapy which utilizes the body's own cells to suppress immunity in a much more targeted way.

GIFT15 was discovered by a team led by Dr. Jacques Galipeau of the JGH Lady Davis Institute and McGill's Faculty of Medicine. The results were published August 9 in the prestigious journal Nature Medicine.

GIFT15 is composed of two proteins, GSM-CSF and interleukin-15, fused together artificially in the lab. Under normal circumstances, the individual proteins usually act to stimulate the immune system, but in their fused form, the equation reverses itself.

"You know those mythical animals that have the head of an eagle and the body of a lion? They're called chimeras. In a lyrical sense, that's what we've created," said Galipeau, a world-renowned expert in cell regeneration affiliated with the Segal Cancer Centre at the Jewish General and McGill's Centre for Translational Research. "GIFT15 is a new protein hormone composed of two distinct proteins, and when they're stuck together they lead to a completely unexpected biological effect."

This effect, explained Galipeau, converts B-cells -- a common form of white blood cell normally involved in immune response -- into powerful immune-suppressive cells. Unlike their better-known cousins, T-cells, naturally-occurring immune-suppressing B-cells are almost unknown in nature and the notion of using them to control immunity is very new.

"GIFT15 can take your normal, run-of-the-mill B-cells and convert them -- in a Superman or Jekyll -Hyde sort of way -- into these super-powerful B-regulatory cells," Galipeau explained. "We can do that in a petri dish. We took normal B-cells from mice, and sprinkled GIFT15 on them, which led to this Jekyll and Hyde effect.

"And when we gave them back intravenously to mice ill with multiple sclerosis, the disease went away."

MS must be caught in its earliest stages, Galipeau cautioned, and clinical studies are needed to test the treatment's efficacy and safety in humans. No significant side-effects showed up in the mice, he said, and the treatment was fully effective with a single dose.

"It's easy to collect B-cells from a patient," he added. "It's just like donating blood. We purify them in the lab, treat them with GIFT15 in a petri dish, and give them back to the patient. That's what we did in mice, and that's what we believe we could do in people. It would be very easy to take the next step, it's just a question of finding the financial resources and partnerships to make this a reality."
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Sounds alot like the tovaxin type approach.
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Loobie wrote:Sounds alot like the tovaxin type approach.
Yes, your quite right. I'm a bit jaded with news of new therapies, especially ones that are based on findings in an animal model, especially knowing that they are years away from FDA approval, it does sound like a step in the right direction though.

I'm waiting for them to discover that a combination of items that you'd find in mostly any kitchen reverses axonal damage..
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It does sound like the tovaxin approach has not died as there are some recent posts in the tovaxin thread talking about them getting bought up.

I checked my kitchen and I didn't find shit! :lol:
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Loobie, thanks for the laugh! On a day when I feel like I'm going nuts(i.e. the feeling/sensation that someone rubbed icy hot all over my arms, legs and back), you really cracked me up! Indigo
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Perhaps it would be more effective than Tovaxin. Only a guess, but maybe it has more chance of succes because it's not eliminating harmful cells, where you have to hope the process is getting rid of enough of them, but it's adding regulatory cells, perhaps they end up with the new hybrid cells in such abundance that no damage can get underway?

Of course, I haven't a clue.
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One of these times someone is going to get it right!!!
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In my totally un-expert medical opinion, it sounds VERY different to Tovaxin.

Tovaxin (from my understanding), causes the immune system to attack the immune cells that cause the damage (ie kill Myelin reactive T-Cells). While this system appears to control (ie suppress) the immune system through the "immune-suppressing B-cells". To me, it simply sounds like a non-chemical method of suppressing the immune system (ie like a non pharma prednisone). The article did not make it clear if the whole immune system was suppressed, or simply specific immune responses. The "likeness" with Tovaxin, i think , is only around the fact they build the treatment from your own "fluids".

The thing that concerns me about any new "immune suppressing" solution to MS, is that we have many immune suppressing drugs today (eg Steroids), and supposedly they only work for MS for a period of about 10years, and then they don't know why they stop working.

Is it going to take ten years before we know this immune suppression system will also fail?
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I will take those ten years.....
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go, you can grab them, but understand there is also the flip-side of side-effects with immune suppression.

I myself am using monthly pulsed oral steroids. I gleamed this idea from a posted article showing reversal of patients EDSS's.
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I read, in The Times of India, Galipeau quoted as saying that they saw no side effects and that "treatment was effective with a single dose".
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This isn't the first treatment that has done wonders for that poor MS mouse and it won't be the last. The problem is and always has been that EAE is simply not the same as human MS and it is a quantum leap between those two diseases.

I sure hope this discovery proves to be different than the hundreds of other drugs that have worked in the mouse and failed in humans.

Harry
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