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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:59 pm 
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I have one of those atomic clocks that also tells you the outside temperature and indoor temperature. I've noticed that there is coorelation between the outside temerature and what's happening inside the house in terms of the temperature going up and down. I know that sounds obvious, but it's the start of an analogy.

This also seems to be the case with the humidity, outside humidity, effects the indoor humidity.

Now, I realize that the body has a way to maintain a level temperature. Reptiles don't, but mammals do. Does the human body maintain a constant level of moisture? If the air is humid, we obviously are breathing moist air, but does that influence the amount of moisture in the body overall? Would the composition of moisture in the body differ somewhat between folks in Arizonia and Hawaii?

You ask, "Ken, where the heck did this idea come from?"

Do a search here on "Dew Point" we have a thread about it. I'm wondering out loud about how all this might work. Folks blame heat, but Russell Johnson explained that it's about dew point. But, we still don't know what the bodies interaction with humidity is that causes the reactions associated with the "Hot Bath Test". Links to help me understand would be very appreciated. Ken

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Thanks Lyon, "sounds like a good one" sounds like a tremendous endorsement!!!! :wink: :wink: Ok, seriously, this is kinds of interesting, ya think?

TIMS Thread About Dew Point

I found a few other links, but I can't post them until tomorrow. Think about it, your internal aquaness - might it mean something? Ken

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Lyon,

I'm thinking that here is something that is commonly experienced by those with MS. It's not like 75% do and 25% don't. I know I'm not going to get directly at a therapy from this, but maybe a better understanding - potentially in support of something, like how we have been thinking about the Faroe's and such.

Here are some links to basic information about weather, but when read with MS in mind and in light of Russel Johnson's observations, I think it might make us think a little bit.....

Moisture and Humidity

Dew Point and Humidity

Dew Point and Humidity #2

Temperature Effecting Dew Point

I realize this is intended for basic science students, but I highlighted all over these. It's anice little site to know about too.

What do you think when you read this stuff and think about how humidity effects MS? Ken

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I might be wrong, but I believe that most MS'ers experience some impact from extensive exposure to a steam room-like experience. So it would be a relative impact not a static one. Take a long steamy very hot shower and come out less stable - maybe it's not a common experience. But I'm just saying, as I understand it, there is at least a bit of feeling of being less stable.

The common factor is interaction with humidity or dew point, or what ever it's going to be called, maybe moisture. I need to try and get copies of Russel's papers. Then I want to understand how sweat works. When our body experiences low hydration we thirst, when we have excessive hydration we sweat (?). So, maybe there is a part of the body that's working to keep all that in sync and maybe this whole process of feeling temporarily disabled following exposure to humidity/moisture/dew point might hold a clue for all of us. I'm sure much of this is A&P 101, but I want to understand it with Russel and MS in mind.

In case anyone is intersted in thinking about this with me, I've found that google searching to include the word "Thermodynamics" is important. Ken

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