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Postby THX1138 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:03 pm

jimmylegs wrote:yea i like to see at least 2.3 to start. then see how you go. aiming for 2.3-2.7.

reference ranges available online are all over the place. in local labs is around 1.8-2.7 depending which lab. (actually, 0.65-1.05 or 0.7-1.1 mmol/l)

example of all over the place - from medlineplus.gov: "The normal range for blood magnesium level is 1.7 to 2.2 mg/dL (0.85 to 1.10 mmol/L). Normal value ranges may vary slightly among different laboratories."

1.1 mmol/l does not convert to 2.2 it converts to 2.7 mg/dL

so you've been at .82 or thereabouts this year. could be interesting to see how you do at 1.1

also note: natural-approach-f27/topic18568-150.html#p246397

what's your daily requirement based on 7-10mg/kg body weight per day? what's your daily dietary intake in mgs? what's the typical daily add via supplementation?

good read: http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/1066 ... 50_eng.pdf

excerpt: "Lowenstein and Stanton (1986) established the reference interval (central 95th percentile) for the serum magnesium concentration of 0.75–0.955 mmol/l. ... we do not know what percentage of this population had an inadequate intake of magnesium and may have been magnesium deficient. Thus, the lower limit of the reference interval may have been flawed by having subjects in the “normal” population that were deficient in magnesium."

or the upper limit. jus sayin.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 36?LI=true
"The mean serum magnesium level among subjects with metabolic syndrome was 1.8±0.3 mg/dl, and among control subjects 2.2±0.2 mg/dl, p<0.00001."

upper end of that healthy group is sitting at 2.4 or 0.99

http://europepmc.org/abstract/med/12693452
"Mean serum magnesium at baseline in the diabetic patients was significantly lower than that in controls (1.44 +/- 0.48 mg/dl Vs 2.29 +/- 0.33 mg/dl; p < 0.001)." 2.6 or 1.1

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamain ... act/607937
"the mean level (2.5±0.4 mg/dL [1.03 ± 0.16 mmol/L]) in a reference population of healthy volunteers was unexpectedly high" 2.9 or 1.2

what's your daily requirement based on 7-10mg/kg body weight per day? what's your daily dietary intake in mgs? what's the typical daily add via supplementation?
daily requirement --- 700 mg-1200 mg. Dietary intake -- I don't know. via supplementation --- 400 mg of natural calm + 400 mg magnesium bisglycinate + short (2 - 5 minute) magnesium oil forearm treatments = 8oomg + ?
I will add that the topical magnesium treatments usually quickly cause changes that notice, whereas the oral magnesium usually does not produce any noticeable changes.
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Re: Hi Friends *waves shyly*

Postby THX1138 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:05 pm

jimmylegs wrote:yea i like to see at least 2.3 to start. then see how you go. aiming for 2.3-2.7.

reference ranges available online are all over the place. in local labs is around 1.8-2.7 depending which lab. (actually, 0.65-1.05 or 0.7-1.1 mmol/l)

example of all over the place - from medlineplus.gov: "The normal range for blood magnesium level is 1.7 to 2.2 mg/dL (0.85 to 1.10 mmol/L). Normal value ranges may vary slightly among different laboratories."

1.1 mmol/l does not convert to 2.2 it converts to 2.7 mg/dL

so you've been at .82 or thereabouts this year. could be interesting to see how you do at 1.1

also note: natural-approach-f27/topic18568-150.html#p246397

what's your daily requirement based on 7-10mg/kg body weight per day? what's your daily dietary intake in mgs? what's the typical daily add via supplementation?

good read: http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/1066 ... 50_eng.pdf

excerpt: "Lowenstein and Stanton (1986) established the reference interval (central 95th percentile) for the serum magnesium concentration of 0.75–0.955 mmol/l. ... we do not know what percentage of this population had an inadequate intake of magnesium and may have been magnesium deficient. Thus, the lower limit of the reference interval may have been flawed by having subjects in the “normal” population that were deficient in magnesium."

or the upper limit. jus sayin.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 36?LI=true
"The mean serum magnesium level among subjects with metabolic syndrome was 1.8±0.3 mg/dl, and among control subjects 2.2±0.2 mg/dl, p<0.00001."

upper end of that healthy group is sitting at 2.4 or 0.99

http://europepmc.org/abstract/med/12693452
"Mean serum magnesium at baseline in the diabetic patients was significantly lower than that in controls (1.44 +/- 0.48 mg/dl Vs 2.29 +/- 0.33 mg/dl; p < 0.001)." 2.6 or 1.1

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamain ... act/607937
"the mean level (2.5±0.4 mg/dL [1.03 ± 0.16 mmol/L]) in a reference population of healthy volunteers was unexpectedly high" 2.9 or 1.2

Nice message :-D
what's your daily requirement based on 7-10mg/kg body weight per day? what's your daily dietary intake in mgs? what's the typical daily add via supplementation?
daily requirement --- 700 mg-1000 mg. Dietary intake -- I don't know. via supplementation --- 400 mg of natural calm + 400 mg magnesium bisglycinate + short (2 - 5 minute) magnesium oil forearm treatments = 8oomg + ?
I will add that the topical magnesium treatments usually quickly cause changes that notice, whereas the oral magnesium usually does not produce any noticeable changes.
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Re: Hi Friends *waves shyly*

Postby jimmylegs » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:21 pm

there are a number of ideas here:
http://www.mgwater.com/inmgdef.shtml

i challenge you to identify my favourite ;)
odd sx? no dx? check w/ dietitian
DRI=MINIMUM eg bit.ly/1vgQclQ
99% don't meet these. meds/lifestyle can affect levels
status can be low in ms & other cond'ns
'but my results are normal'. typical panels don't test all
deficits occur in 'normal' range
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Re: Hi Friends *waves shyly*

Postby THX1138 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:34 pm

jimmylegs wrote:there are a number of ideas here:
http://www.mgwater.com/inmgdef.shtml

i challenge you to identify my favourite ;)
Okay, there's a lot to read there (which I've read very little of so far) as my reading is rather poor these days because of dry eyes and tight muscles around the eyes.

BUT, I will venture a wild guess... Magnesium-rich foods. :-O :-O
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Re: Hi Friends *waves shyly*

Postby THX1138 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:21 pm

I found this: 6 Powerful Ways to Boost Your Magnesium Levels https://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-5534/6- ... evels.html


I'm sure there's many ways to boost magnesium levels without having to resort to food... Now, look at this; here's a nice article, 6 Powerful Ways to Boost Your Magnesium Levels... (as I'm reading down the page)... people need lots of magnesium - "Right, Right" (I'm thinking "Good article") "yep yep, good article"... and.............. :) Oh look, here's number one....... :-O :-O :-O :-O :-O :confused: ... Draaaaaat...... 1. Eat Magnesium rich foooooooooooooods.
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Re: Hi Friends *waves shyly*

Postby jimmylegs » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:53 pm

mmm mmm mmmmmmmmmmmm
one thing i'm working my way thru this week:
undiagnosed-f54/topic22561.html#p211851

keep reading anyway tho.
odd sx? no dx? check w/ dietitian
DRI=MINIMUM eg bit.ly/1vgQclQ
99% don't meet these. meds/lifestyle can affect levels
status can be low in ms & other cond'ns
'but my results are normal'. typical panels don't test all
deficits occur in 'normal' range
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Re: Hi Friends *waves shyly*

Postby THX1138 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:50 pm

The recipe sounds yummy. My only concerns are, potential, difficulties finding the ingredients and I need a really really easy simple recipes. I'm working on getting a person to help at my place. If I do, she can make your spanakopita recipe. :-D
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Re: Hi Friends *waves shyly*

Postby Kittie » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:15 am

Hi Cybele,

My daughter is transgender. She has had all the operations and now leads a happier life as the girl she was meant to be. We live in the UK.

Kittie.
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Re: Hi Friends *waves shyly*

Postby THX1138 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:23 pm

Cybele, How is it going with the magnesium?
And LDN?
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