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Postby jimmylegs » Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:51 am

;) lol! cmon napay, i'm almost finished this degree don't make me start another one right away lol
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Re: funding a lab

Postby cheerleader » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:30 am

notasperfectasyou wrote:I'm in favor of us all pooling together a fund to build Jimmylegs a lab.

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Postby jimmylegs » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:34 am

hehe ;) 'morning cheer
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Postby Sharon » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:22 am

Hey, thanks jl!

I think I will add one more 1000 mg D3 to my daily regimen. I do take the calcium and magnesium - probably should take a little more zinc.

I agree with notasperfectasyou
I'm in favor of us all pooling together a fund to build Jimmylegs a lab.



Have a great day everyone!

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Postby jimmylegs » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:34 am

hey there, you're very welcome! don't forget to take some mag on its own, away from the d3 :)

also, a quick caution on the zinc:

it's wise to get it tested before adding more to your current daily regimen. whatever you're currently getting may be sufficient.
once you have a result, see where you are compared to zinc status of female healthy controls (for table of healthy zinc ranges for females see thread: zinc, ms, boys, girls, controls). then you can go for that bit higher, if needed.
i was very deficient, was told to take 100mg per day for one month. i was more sporadic, taking none some days, 50mg some days, and 100mg other days, over three months, and that resulted in zinc excess. as you will note in the zinc ms boys girls thread if you are interested :)
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Vitamin D and the sun at noon

Postby Abe » Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:16 pm

Interestingly it has been found that the best time to get UVB is around noon. Hopefully this is useful information for any of you who are lucky enough to live in a country with a reasonable climate and get your vitamin D naturally. Meanwhile I'll keep popping D3 pills in the gloomy UK!

From:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... ?source=nl

“Our recommendation, this is based on work in England and Norway, and the United States, that the optimal time to be in the sun for vitamin D production is near to solar noon as possible. That would be between say 10:00am and 2:00pm.

The reason is two-fold.

First of all, you need a shorter exposure time because the UVB is more intense.

Now, the second reason is that when the sun goes down towards the horizon, the UVB is filtered out much more than the UVA. And it turns out that the long wave of ultraviolet called UVA, which runs from about 320 to 400 nanometers, is highly correlated with melanoma -- where the UVB is the one that produces the vitamin D, and that’s from 290 to 315 nanometers,” Dr. Grant explains.
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:49 am

good stuff abe
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Postby Loriyas » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:18 am

Interesting, because this is exactly when dermatologists tell you to stay out of the sun! So again, less sunshine, less vitamin D.......more MS???? I always thought it didn't make sense to stay out of sunshine and I have always felt better with it. Everything is moderation....
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Postby LisaE » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:53 pm

Hi All,

My internist wanted my Vitamin D levels to be checked earlier this week and the results came in shockingly low.

The test was the 25(OH)D3.
The result was 7.8 ng/mL.

We're starting with 50,000 UL three times each week for a month. Followed by 50,000 UL once each week. We'll check levels again in two months and plan to continue higher supplementation for at least six months before moving to over-the-counter tabs.

Since this was completely new information, I looked up symptoms of low D levels and it reads just like how my MS has been behaving lately. LOL.

For those who have been deficient and raised their Vitamin D levels, how long did it take before your symptoms began to subside?

Any other words of advise?
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Postby GeoGuy » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:16 pm

elly,

I to have a low Vit D level. It was found by my general physican and she has been trying to deal with it by having me take 3000 IU of D3 every day. It has gone up but is still not in a normal range (if there really is such a thing). we are still doing blood test about every 8 week to check.

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Impaired Absorption on Vitamin D?

Postby lyndacarol » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:45 pm

GeoGuy--Since I must be recognized as having the unconventional idea of excess insulin, you won't be surprised by this thought:

Insulin is caustic; it is secreted by the pancreas and enters the small intestine in the first section called the duodenum, where most nutrients are absorbed from the food eaten. What if the insulin damages the villi and thereby impairs absorption of vitamins--even a Vit D supplement? Could you try to get more D through sunshine on your skin? Maybe more would get into your system by that path?
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Postby GeoGuy » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:52 pm

lindacarol,

Thanks for the thought. I have tried to increase my exposure to the sun but that is difficult during the summer in the south when one is sensitive to heat. Still I manage to get about 30 minutes a day, most days, on my arms and face.

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Postby jimmylegs » Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:20 pm

holy CRAP lisa. sounds like you`re on the right track to remedy this, but wow that you got so low in the first place.
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Postby LisaE » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:30 pm

Vitamin D was not really on my radar screen. I don't really spent much time directly out in the sun. I work in a home office which has large skylights in the ceiling.

I just read this week that sunlight which is filtered through windows does not encourage the same level of Vitamin D that direct light does. Ooops.

I'm lactose intolerant so avoid milk. I eat yogurt and cottage cheese and drink orange juice with extra calcium. I'm also overweight which apparently is a factor.

I'm looking forward to feeling better if this is the cause of pain, numbness, spasticity, tinnitus, brain fog, and increased depression. I'm hoping....
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Wow, LisaE, you are way low!

Postby Smilingface » Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:30 am

Wow, I thought I was low at a baseline of 12.6 ng/ml. One year later after supplementing 2000-4000, I was still below normal (as per my doc 30ng/ml).
I stepped up to 4000-6000, in the form of some yummy cinnamon flavored tabs (2000 in one). Added calcium chews with magnesium, chocolate flavored of course. I'm now really good on compliance! My plan is to re-check my level in two months and see how I'm doing.

LisaE, I have noticed no change in my symptoms but I know I'm helping my body fight my MS better with a healthy Vit D level. I also fight with diet, exercise, stress management and good ol' sleep. Good luck to you!
Primary Progressive, Onset 10 years ago at age 42, diagnosis 6 years ago, Vit D, Chinese Herbs, Exercise, yoga. So far tried antibiotics, fumaric acid and 4AP. Currently participant in the FTY720/PPMS Trial.<br />
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