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Postby Cojack » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:25 pm

Jimmy Legs,

I assumed you were male for awhile there... :) ...I'm still in the trial stage of this experiment..and really don't have a clue as to how much/or when/or in what combination....i think in the article cited yesterday it said 1,000 IU per 25lbs of body weight....that seems to be safely supported to me...especially compared to the amount our bodies make in the sun...I'm actually going to start using a sun bed/i hate them/but apparently they're a good source....i haven't even been tested for my levels yet...another good idea...

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Postby jimmylegs » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:30 pm

hi jack

Jimmy Legs, I assumed you were male for awhile there.

not uncommon :)
it's a seinfeld joke, i've had to sit thru so many :S

re sun bed, make sure it's the right wavelength uvb!

and testing to monitor is very wise, good call :)

so you never took any yet huh. what are your symptoms all in all, if you don't mind me asking?

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Postby Cojack » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:39 pm

JLeggs,


I've been taking about 4,ooo but will up it to 6,000...u can ck out the lovely symptom chart in the INTRO section....they evolve rather quickly/so i hate declaring them...(i'm still subclinical-they want to wait a bit and see how it plays out) so i'm out in the cold/save you lovely I-Net souls...

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Postby Wonderfulworld » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:26 am

I too went for sunbeds for a while to up my vit d levels. Never again. My skin aged, more moles appeared, there were changes to existing moles and overall my skin has lost "bounciness" and is drier and wrinklier.

I think you should up your vit d with diet and careful supplementation - just my thoughts.
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Postby Wonderfulworld » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:50 pm

Sorry, some time went by and I never thanked those who replied to my question.
So...thanks! :)
I did need to add cal/mag/zinc so appreciate the replies, thanks again.
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Home test for vitamin D content - $65

Postby Nick » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:49 pm

The Vitamin D Newsletter
December 28, 2008

The Vitamin D Council is happy to announce that we havepartnered with ZRT Laboratory to provide an inexpensive, $65.00, in-home, accurate, vitamin D [25(OH)D] test. The usual cost for this test is between $100.00 and $200.00.

If you read this newsletter, you know about our interest in accurate vitamin D testing. In the next few weeks, you may read about the Vitamin D Council's quest for accurate vitamin D blood tests in the national media. Before we partnered with ZRT, we verified, repeatedly, that ZRT provides accurate and reliable vitamin D tests and that their method corresponds very well to the gold standard of vitamin D blood tests, the DiaSorin RIA.

Our ZRT serviceis not just inexpensive, it means no more worrying about your doctor ordering the right test or interpreting it correctly. You buy the test kit on the internet or by phone, a few days later the kit comes in the mail, you or a nurse friend do a finger stick, collect a few drops of blood, and send the blotter paper back to ZRT in the postage paid envelope provided with the kit. A week later you get results back in the mail and know accurate 25-hydroxy-vitamin D levels of you and your family.

For every test you order,ZRT will donate $10.00 to the Vitamin D Council. Please read the new page hyperlinked below on our website as it both explains the procedure and how to order the test.

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/d ... ient.shtml

Executive summary: keep your family's 25-hydroxy-vitamin D blood test above 50 ng/ml, year around. Most adults need at least 5,000 IU per day, especially this time of year. Most children need at least 1,000 IU per day per every 25 pounds of body weight. Bio Tech Pharmacal provides high quality and inexpensive vitamin D. Currently Bio Tech Pharmacal is providing vitamin D for numerous scientific studies. To see their prices and for ordering, click the hyperlink below.

http://www.bio-tech-pharm.com/catalog.aspx?cat_id=2

As a gift to our readers for the New Year, Thorne publications have provided a free download to a basic paper aboutvitamin D. I wrote it earlier this year for educated lay people as well as health care practitioners. Please read this paper carefully, your family's well-being, even lives, may depend on you understanding it.

http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/13/1/6.pdf

Seasons Greetings
John Cannell, MD
vitamindcouncil.org


Thank you for subscribing to the Vitamin D Newsletter from the Vitamin D Council. The Vitamin D Council is a non-profit trying to end the epidemic of vitamin D deficiency. Please reproduce this newsletter and post it on Internet sites. Remember, we are a non-profit and rely on donations to publish our newsletter and maintain our website. Send your tax-deductible contributions to:

The Vitamin D Council
9100 San Gregorio Road
Atascadero, CA 93422
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Home test for serum vitamin D content - $65

Postby Nick » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:51 pm

The Vitamin D Newsletter
December 28, 2008

The Vitamin D Council is happy to announce that we havepartnered with ZRT Laboratory to provide an inexpensive, $65.00, in-home, accurate, vitamin D [25(OH)D] test. The usual cost for this test is between $100.00 and $200.00.

If you read this newsletter, you know about our interest in accurate vitamin D testing. In the next few weeks, you may read about the Vitamin D Council's quest for accurate vitamin D blood tests in the national media. Before we partnered with ZRT, we verified, repeatedly, that ZRT provides accurate and reliable vitamin D tests and that their method corresponds very well to the gold standard of vitamin D blood tests, the DiaSorin RIA.

Our ZRT serviceis not just inexpensive, it means no more worrying about your doctor ordering the right test or interpreting it correctly. You buy the test kit on the internet or by phone, a few days later the kit comes in the mail, you or a nurse friend do a finger stick, collect a few drops of blood, and send the blotter paper back to ZRT in the postage paid envelope provided with the kit. A week later you get results back in the mail and know accurate 25-hydroxy-vitamin D levels of you and your family.

For every test you order,ZRT will donate $10.00 to the Vitamin D Council. Please read the new page hyperlinked below on our website as it both explains the procedure and how to order the test.

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/d ... ient.shtml

Executive summary: keep your family's 25-hydroxy-vitamin D blood test above 50 ng/ml, year around. Most adults need at least 5,000 IU per day, especially this time of year. Most children need at least 1,000 IU per day per every 25 pounds of body weight. Bio Tech Pharmacal provides high quality and inexpensive vitamin D. Currently Bio Tech Pharmacal is providing vitamin D for numerous scientific studies. To see their prices and for ordering, click the hyperlink below.

http://www.bio-tech-pharm.com/catalog.aspx?cat_id=2

As a gift to our readers for the New Year, Thorne publications have provided a free download to a basic paper aboutvitamin D. I wrote it earlier this year for educated lay people as well as health care practitioners. Please read this paper carefully, your family's well-being, even lives, may depend on you understanding it.

http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/13/1/6.pdf

Seasons Greetings
John Cannell, MD
vitamindcouncil.org


Thank you for subscribing to the Vitamin D Newsletter from the Vitamin D Council. The Vitamin D Council is a non-profit trying to end the epidemic of vitamin D deficiency. Please reproduce this newsletter and post it on Internet sites. Remember, we are a non-profit and rely on donations to publish our newsletter and maintain our website. Send your tax-deductible contributions to:

The Vitamin D Council
9100 San Gregorio Road
Atascadero, CA 93422
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:47 pm

that's crazy nick, great news!
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D3 question

Postby GeoGuy » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:32 am

Hi gang,

After 6 months of ramping up my D3 intake my blood serum level has finally reached an acceptable level. I'm taking 4000 IU a day. My question is, How much calcium and magnesium should I be taking with that amount of D3?

Thanks for your input!

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Postby jimmylegs » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:31 am

hi jack, 1000-1200 mg calcium, 600mg magnesium (300 with the d3 and 300 on its own, at bedtime), not to mention 25-50mg zinc, and a smidge of vitamin K or eat good sources of vitK daily.
what's your acceptable d3 level? ever had your zinc tested?
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Postby GeoGuy » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:16 am

Jimmy,

When last checked my d3 level was 38 ng/ml, with 32 being the low end. I have not had my zinc level tested.

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Postby patientx » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:41 pm

Jack,

Did you have your vitamin D level checked before you started supplements? That would be some good information, to know what effect that supplement level had.

About a month ago, I emailed Margherita Cantorna, who has done a bunch of research into vitamin D. She did experiments where she was able to block EAE in mice using vitamin D and calcium supplementation. I think others here have referenced her articles. Anyway, she recommended taking 1000 mg D3 per day along with 800 mg calcium, though her recommendations were based partly on the work of others. She also mentioned the 32 ng/ml number as a lower threshold level.
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Postby jimmylegs » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:08 pm

hi jack, 1ng/mL =2.496nmol/L soooo 95 nmol/L yea that is not bad. lowest risk quintile in the last study i looked at was min 100 nmol/L so you're pretty much there. nice!

if you ever get your zinc tested, 11.5-18.5 mumol/L is my lab's normal range, ms men average around 13 (range 11-15) and healthy controls 18.
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Vitamin D Deficiancy...Again!!

Postby chrishasms » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:11 pm

Well I got my vitamin D results and I was at 21!!!!!!!!!!

So I took four weeks of 50,000iu 1xweek...and now I take a 1000iu per day. It was up to 34. It has helped with fatigue tremendously. I had no idea how bad I was until I had it right.

I suggest you have your doc test yours out and make sure you are over 30! Some newer docs say for healthy people 40-60 is sufficient. I figure us MS folk should maybe be shooting for 50. Tomorrow I recheck it again to see where I am.

Curious your thoughts if any at all.
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