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Postby jimmylegs » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:59 pm

definitely 40 MINIMUM for MSers chris (that's 100 for the metric folks).
50 (150) is definitely where i prefer to be too - get er goin!
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Postby patientx » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:58 pm

When I was first being worked-up, my 25 OH vitamin D was 20.7 ng/mL. Of course, the PCP I had at the time bought into that goofy Marshall theory. he recommended against supplementation, and I didn't know any better. After some internet research, I realized I needed to start taking vitamin D, but I haven't been tested again, yet.
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:22 pm

ugh marshall again... glad you're a reader px!
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Postby Wonderfulworld » Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:00 pm

I can't believe I left it until this year to get tested. Glad you got the tests done Chris.

Mine were:
May 2008 52nmol/L
August 2008 50 nmol/L
November 2008 49 nmol/L

I was taking 1000IU D3, then upped it in Aug to 2000IU, now am on 4000IU.
Have to wait until April to see my Neuro but I think I may need even more than this.

Everyone get tested, please!
Here's the reason why:http://www.msra.org.au/news/documents/MSVitaminDA4Brochure_website.pdf (link has been posted before but for newbies....)
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Postby jimmylegs » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:16 pm

ww, when i started supplementing 4000IU per day or close to it, i did so for months and months and still at my first test i had only made it up to 72.
my hospital advised you can get your d3 boosted 50nmol/L in 10 days by taking 50,000IU per day. i followed those instructions and it worked.
i did it using a highly concentrated d3 liquid from the pharmacist. there's a picture of the product i use on the mega D thread in regimens.
i used to get some additional hi potency liquid diluted for the daily 4000IU maintenance dose. it has to be mixed with oil which isn't that tasty.
i found if i don't get the d3 diluted at all, i don't even seem to need a prescription; it's over-the-counter. so i bought the whole bottle (tiny) and i take one drop roughly once a week. i know from taking 50,000IU per day using the graduated syringe that it's two drops. so one drop = 25,000IU instead of 4000IU x 7 days = 28,000IU
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Postby Dixie_Amazon » Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:20 am

I just got some blood work back this week from my Endo. Back in Feb. 08 it was below 20. Now after a round of the 50,000 iu weekly doses and then my continuing 2000 iu daily I am in the "normal" range, but still on the low with my 25-OH at 31.

The Endo would like it higher but only wants me to take 1000 iu and that there is nothing more to do about it. :roll:
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Postby Wonderfulworld » Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:17 pm

Jimmy that's good info. Unfortunately my GP doesn't seem to find my Vit D status worrisome, although I do, and I'm scared of jeopardising the new patient/doctor communications as my last GP (had for 8 years) ended up thinking I was a nutter because I asked too much about hughes and lupus. With good reason, but that's another story.

I'll ask my pharmacist instead, he's amenable to questions! Maybe we have a similar high-dose D3 in Ireland. At the moment I'm taking 40 xdrops of D3, it's actually a product designed for babies (2 drops a day) so it takes time to get them all in!! :lol: And high-dose D3 would be cheaper too. Will ask him next week.

Just wondering what did you do for cal/mag/zinc/copper while you took 50,000 IU? - At the moment I'm taking 1500mg cal/1000mg mag/35mg zinc/2mg copper along with 4,000IU D3.

p.s. I think you should call yourself jimmyvits by the way! You are a font of knowledge. :wink:
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Postby jimmylegs » Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:51 pm

dixie, that's 31 in ng/ml right? if that's your units then you're getting there, you're probably doing okay against osteoporosis at that level, 40 is the minimum for the immune sys. somewhere in here there's a post of mine that tells you how to calculate how long such and such dose will take to achieve such and such level, i'll have to see if i can find that again

ww, pharmacists are gold. your guy can probably help you. haha, i used to take the baby stuff at first but it was ridiculous. kinda tasty though lol!

i did not take enough minerals when i did my d3, which is why i jump up and down for other ppl to do so now. your mix of cal mag zinc cu sounds really good. i can't even believe you are able to handle 1000 per day of mag, for real??? i would never leave the bathroom.

also, do read up on vitamin K and think about eating lots of k veggies :)
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Postby ATPisit » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:08 am

I weighed in at 9. Nine! Doc said I was close to ricketts, LOL. I started 1000 mcg/day, slowly upped to 5000 mcg/day. Last bloodwork saw me at 20. Hoping for 50 this time .......
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Postby Wonderfulworld » Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:41 pm

:lol: Ahem Jimmyvitilegs, that explains a few things. At least I know the high mag intake is to blame :oops: .

ATPisit, I have never even heard of anyone being close to rickets, that is shocking. Hope your vit D levels rise and rise. Thank goodness you got tested.
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Postby jimmylegs » Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:34 pm

ohhhhhh dear ww lolol! be careful, you can fire things through your system too quickly for them to be absorbed. try backing off on the mag - what size pills do you have? i max out at about 500mg per day.

ATP, keep us posted, and i like that you're aiming for 50! go for it!!
hope you too are taking a good mineral blend with your d3. like ww, except perhaps a little less mag ;)
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Postby CureOrBust » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:17 pm

Wonderfulworld wrote:that explains a few things.
Is the magnesium you are taking, in magnesium oxide?
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Postby Wonderfulworld » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:19 am

Yes Cure, Mag oxide.
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Postby CureOrBust » Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:15 am

mag oxide is provided in a powdered form specifically to clean out the full digestive tract (as Homozone); and it does.

I get no noticeable laxative effects from other types of magnesium. If you want to up your dose, you can also try it in other forms. I often take over 2000mg mag from mag citrate (in two 1000mg doses), with no attributable laxative effect. I have also used "Magnesium Chelate". I do specifically notice it with mag oxide, at much lower doses of mag. The product i mentioned explains how the oxygen separates from the mag to create a clensing effect.
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Postby jimmylegs » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:09 am

cure, ww, i used to take mag oxide. i only take mag citrate these days, and still, if i were to take more than 500 i'd be looking for trouble! [edit: now only magnesium glycinate or magnesium bisglycinate]
ww, mag oxide is not a soluble form so it does go right through and can actually cause a risk of dehydration with long term use.
mag citrate is more soluble, more absorbable, and is meant for better use by the body rather that for its laxative effect.
for me, it doesn't seem to matter what form i'm after, magnesium is a laxative, some moreso, some less!
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