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Postby jimmylegs » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:51 pm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9374 ... t=Abstract
Stability of brain content of magnesium in experimental hypomagnesemia. (...in rats)

Magnesium is important in cerebral function. If there is a deficiency and neurological symptoms accrue, we hypothesised that Mg2+ deficiency causes neurological symptoms by decreasing the level of Mg2+ in cerebral tissue...Although the global values for Mg2+ in the brain did not decline in MD rats, there was a significant decrease in Mg2+ in the brainstem...topographic variations could account for some of neurological signs accompanying this condition.
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Postby jimmylegs » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:55 pm

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/conte ... 288/3/1311
Optimization of Magnesium Therapy after Severe Diffuse Axonal Brain Injury in Rats ...rats and more rats

A number of studies have demonstrated that magnesium salts given after traumatic brain injury improve subsequent neurologic outcome... identical concentrations required for improved neurologic outcome suggest that improvement in outcome was dependent on the magnesium cation and not the associated anion... Subsequent magnetic resonance studies demonstrated that the administered magnesium penetrated the blood-brain barrier after injury and resulted in an increased brain intracellular free magnesium concentration and associated bioenergetic state
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Re: Magnesium and the BBB

Postby NHE » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:18 pm

jimmylegs wrote:talk about a poorly worded title but an interesting thought:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1159 ... t=Abstract
Magnesium sulfate attenuates increased blood-brain barrier permeability during insulin-induced hypoglycemia in rats

Thanks for posting that interesting abstract. So for a person of my weight an equivalent Mg dosage would be something on the order of 15.3 g followed by another 217 mg over the next 2.5 hrs. Isn't that dosage in the range that would cause some problems?

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Magnesium and insulin

Postby lyndacarol » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:18 pm

Thank you, JL, for some of the most interesting material I've read today...or ever:
an interesting thought:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1159 ... t=Abstract
Magnesium sulfate attenuates increased blood-brain barrier permeability during insulin-induced hypoglycemia in rats


And, cheerleader, I'm here! Thanks for knowing that I would be very interested! The abstract stated:

The effects of magnesium sulfate on cerebrovascular permeability to a dye, Evans blue, were studied during insulin-induced hypoglycemia with hypothermia in rats. Hypoglycemia was induced by an intramuscular injection of insulin.

Just for general info...hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) is often the result of high insulin level (injected in this abstract; overproduced in my pancreas). I encourage insulin testing; but even if you don't test, you can assume your insulin is high at the time your blood sugar is low (other than because of fasting).
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Postby jimmylegs » Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:52 am

you're all very welcome cheer, NHE and LC :D

15.3 g followed by another 217 mg over the next 2.5 hrs. Isn't that dosage in the range that would cause some problems?


i think it would certainly cause some trouble in the GI tract, i guess the IM injection route dodged that bullet.

i guess all we can do besides our supplements is take epsom salt baths (always follow the instructions, you can get too much of a good thing this way) and pack it in as much mag-dense food as we can handle - magnesium in foods is easier to deal with in the gut anyway; here are some:

http://www.hoptechno.com/bookfoodsourcemg.htm
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Natural Calm Flavors

Postby catfreak » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:22 pm

Can someone tell me the best flavor of the Natural Calm.

Thanks!

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Postby jimmylegs » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:46 pm

i only know plain. sometimes i squeeze a bit of lemon into it and a smidge of sugar which is not bad.
i tried a flavoured mag powder product and didn't like it but it was not from the natural calm ppl. sorry can't be more help!
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Postby catfreak » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:26 pm

Hey Jimmy,

I am finally getting all my supplements together. Man, so many pills! I will let you know what all I am doing when I get it all together.

I had to go for another week of training on my job so that through me off of getting it all together.

Thanks for your help.

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Postby jimmylegs » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:16 pm

hey excellent news cf, i'll keep an eye out for your update :D
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Postby cheerleader » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:11 pm

We like the raspberry-lemon. Not bad, at all. Uses natural stevia for sweetener. Nothing artificial.
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Postby Loobie » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:30 am

I agree with Cheer, the Rasp/Lemon. The straight up lemon is pretty intensely flavored.
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Postby Needled » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:04 am

Hey Cat, I finally called Natural Calm a few weeks ago. I didn’t know what flavor I wanted, either, so she sent me a sample packet of each one. She’d probably do the same for you. None of them were as bad as I thought they’d be, but it was good to sample them all.
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Postby catfreak » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:53 pm

Thanks Needled! I will call them and ask about the samples. I would like to try first since it is pricey. Which did you end up liking best?

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Postby Needled » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:41 am

I went with lemon. I think I was expecting a Metamucil-type liquidly fiber drink, but it’s nothing like that. So they were all a pleasant surprise. None of them were bad, and next time I order I'll probably get orange just to change it up a bit.
By the way, she didn’t charge me for the samples. I wasn’t trying to get something for nothing, I just didn’t want to be stuck with a whole bottle of stuff I wouldn’t use if I didn’t like it. A little bit of customer service goes a long way cuz now I’m a big fan of theirs!!
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Postby catfreak » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:07 pm

Jimmy,

Have you ever tried mixing the plain Natural Calm with hot tea? Just a thought since I try to drink a cup at night to relax.

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