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Postby cheerleader » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:43 pm

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You're doing really well...keep up the diet, lifestyle and positive outlook. Make that garden grow.
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(BTW...lots of folks had mono/EBV they later connect to their MS diagnosis. I know my husband did.)
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Postby jimmylegs » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:04 pm

i recently had connected a supervisor's cold allergy and prior mono infection, plus family issues with autism, and thyroid problems, to a possible common link to guess what, zinc. a dietary-lifestyle connection. forgot at the time that mono was EBV and that it would connect to low zinc in ms also. it's bugging me now - i have to keep hunting for those resources i had tracked down for her at the time... can't find em!
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Postby Lyon » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:15 pm

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Postby jimmylegs » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:06 pm

hehe yea it's enough to drive ya nutters.
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Postby DIM » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:23 am

This is the answer to the first question about fatty acids, there are proinflammatory and anti-inflammatory prostangalndins, fatty acids promote anti-inflammatory prostanglandins:
http://forum.ldnresearchtrust.org/index.php?showtopic=7
http://forum.ldnresearchtrust.org/index ... owtopic=40
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Postby jimmylegs » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:45 pm

to add to that, grabbed this from msrc.co.uk

Zinc is also important in the production of prostaglandins (PGs). PGs are vital to numerous body functions including, for example: the function of the immune system; the expression and control of inflammation; skin and wound healing; function of the heart and cardiovascular system; absorption of various minerals; body temperature control and the important functions of fertility, conception, and delivery of the infant.

The way in which zinc influences PG production is by potentiating (or supporting the function of) the enzymes which permit the conversion of the polyunsaturated fatty acids into PGs. Zinc thus has a very direct action in stimulating the normal production of PGs thereby maintaining or restoring normal health and fitness.

Zinc deficiency can result in many symptoms, including: loss of appetite, growth retardation, diarrhoea, tremor, hair loss, dandruff, a dry skin rash, white lines on fingernails, increased allergic sensitivity, disturbance of menstrual periods, pre-menstrual syndrome, delay of wound healing, loss of taste or smell sensation, dyslexia, poor night vision, photophobia (sensitivity to light), depression, sleep disturbance, hyperactivity, reduced fertility, loss of sex drive, pre-eclampsia (toxaemia) of pregnancy and post-natal depression.
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Is anybody taking codliver oil?

Postby ursula » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:20 am

I´ve been taking a teaspoon of codliver oil for a while.
It´s much cheaper than the capsules - and I don´t like vitamin tablets very much..

But I´m not sure if it is the right dose?
Is here anyone who thas been taking it for a longer period of time - and did it work?

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Postby jimmylegs » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:07 am

i just take fish oil omega fatty acid supplements but try to eat more fish. here's a pertinent read for you on cod liver oil ursula:
http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrit ... tions.html
it's worth reading the whole page
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Postby ursula » Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:30 am

Hi Jimmylegs,

thank you very much for the interesting link.
Do you also know how much "UI" of vitamin D is one teaspoon of cod liver oil?
I couldn´t find it anywhere..

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Postby patientx » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:15 am

Ursula,

I try to take a teaspoon of cod liver oil each day, since I've read this is one of the best sources of Omega-3's (other than just eating fish). The bottle I have says it contains 400 IU's of vitamin D, and whole bunch of vitamin A (though I can't remember right now how much).
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Postby ursula » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:46 am

The taste really is a challenge, isn´t it...
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Recent articles (in german) suggested a strong influence of Vitamin D on the frequency of relapses and EDSS score.
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Postby jimmylegs » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:21 am

ursula if you click through to the dec 2008 update at the bottom of the page i linked to above, you can read this:
"...The authors of the recent commentary ... suggested that modern cod liver oil is low in vitamin D because the deodorization process removes the vitamin while manufacturers fortify the oil with only a fraction of the original amount. As an example, they cited cod liver oil made by Nordic Naturals, advertised as containing only “naturally occurring vitamins A and D,” which has only 3 to 60 IU of vitamin D per tablespoon but between 150 and 12,000 times as much vitamin A... vitamins A and D work together and that without vitamin D, vitamin A can be ineffective
or even toxic..."
if you're up for some biochem, that whole pdf is worth a read too.
i have not read it all yet but it is pretty good stuff from what i've seen so far.
at any rate, i should think it ought to say vit D IU per unit volume on your product label. would be worth hunting down a product that specifies the content. the link above has that list of recommended products - you might visit a few sites and see what the manufacturers have to say for themselves?
for example
Olde World® Icelandic Cod Liver Oil
1tsp = 5000IU vit A 200IU vit D
http://www.gardenoflifeusa.com/
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Postby ursula » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:59 am

Jimmylegs,
thank you very much!
I think 1 teaspoon will be o.k. - I couldn´t take more of it anyway (the aftertaste..!)

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Postby patientx » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:05 am

I take the fish oil primarily for the PUFA, not the Vitamin D. I take a separate supplement for that.

The oil I have is mint-flavored, but it's still kinda nasty going down. A teaspoon isn't too bad. I've heard someone makes a lemon-flavored oil, too.
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Postby DIM » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:10 pm

Vitamin A is quite toxic and can cause several problems when taken in high quantities, cod liver oil contains too much of it, better avoid it completely!
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