of iron and MS

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Postby L » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:29 pm

Remember that vitamin C helps the body absorb iron.

I am a little anaemic but pistachio nuts _ vitamin C seem to fix it..
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Postby jimmylegs » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:31 pm

ah ha, glad we might have tracked something down here, iim.

L - you are exactly right: from the article link above re science minded blah:

What about phytic acid? Phytates, which are found in most plant foods, can reduce iron absorption by up to 80%. But vitamin C—consumed along with a meal--can counteract the effect. In one study, preschoolers with iron deficiency anemia were given vitamin C supplements twice a day—100 mg at each of two phytate-rich meals. After two months, most of the kids were no longer anemic (Seshahdri et al 1985).

This underscores the importance of vitamin C. Many grains and legumes (including soy) can be good sources of iron--if you consume them with vitamin C.
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Re: of iron and MS

Postby THX1138 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:49 am

jimmylegs, do these results look healthy? I'm especially wondering about the iron saturation being so close to the bottom of the "normal" range.

Component ------------- Standard Range--------Your Value
IRON -------------------- 33 - 155 ug/dL---------52
FERRITIN --------------- 30 - 300 ng/mL---------67
TIBC -------------------- 200 - 400 ug/dL--------321
IRON SATURATION --- 15 - 50 % --------------- 16

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Component Standard Range Your Value
TRANSFERRIN 190 - 350 mg/dL 235
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Re: of iron and MS

Postby jimmylegs » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:20 am

you could try getting the serum ferritin up to 80, but you don't want it any higher esp while you are working on imbalances... might be as simple as working to increase iron absorption/utilization. what is your daily intake of vit C right now?
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Re: of iron and MS

Postby THX1138 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:23 am

what is your daily intake of vit C right now?


most days it is minimal, but on the few days a week that I do a niacin flush, it is 500-1000 mg.
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Re: of iron and MS

Postby jimmylegs » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:52 pm

to help with absorption of dietary iron, try adding daily vit C foods to your diet, via 1c servings of:
papaya, red peppers, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, strawberries, cauliflower, etc

parsley is good in large volumes as well. have you ever tried tabbouleh salad? loads of parsley which is FULL of vit C (has a decent shot of potassium too)

vit C foods:
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tnam ... #foodchart

as you know, you'll need to keep an eye on your iron status as you work on your zinc situation. vit C will be one way to help.
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Re: of iron and MS

Postby THX1138 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:12 pm

can I just take vitamin C supplements for now?
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Re: of iron and MS

Postby jimmylegs » Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:01 pm

yes - but obviously whole foods provide a more diverse array of nutrients and other beneficial factors that would not be contributed via an isolated supplement.
general recommendations are along the lines of 5-12 servings of veggies and fruit per day. so if you can start working on even one to two *full* servings per day (in addition to any V8 on the menu), it'll be a step in the right direction.
could be as simple as buying some snacks in the form of pre-cut mixed veg from a salad bar or stir fry section, plus a bottle of balsamic salad dressing for dipping.
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Re: of iron and MS

Postby jimmylegs » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:45 am

i have posted this study around the site a few times over the past year and a bit, but thought this info (elevated iron with low zinc and copper in MS patients) deserved a spot here as well.

Serum level of iron, zinc and copper in patients with multiple sclerosis
http://jmj.jums.ac.ir/~jumsjmj/files/si ... 0187b3.pdf
"Introduction:
Multiple sclerosis (MS) is one of the most common neurologic disorders. It appears that in addition to the common risk factors, there may be other factors, such as serum level of trace elements, which affect the development or course of the disease. The aim of this study was to evaluate the serum levels of iron, zinc and copper in patients with MS and compare them with the control group.
Materials and Methods:
In this study, serum levels of iron, zinc and copper were determined in 25 patients with MS and compared with those of 25 healthy individuals matched with age and sex. Data were analyzed in SPSS, version17 using statistical descriptive methods (mean- percentage, SD) and t-test
Results:
In this study, there were 9 males in the case and control groups and the rest were female. The mean age of the patients was 28 ± 3.44 years for men and 24 ± 2.55 years for women. Mean serum iron levels were significantly elevated in MS patients (127.04 ± 34.67) compared to these levels in the control group (103.95 ± 33.81). Mean serum zinc levels were significantly decreased in MS patients (10.92 ± 2.114) as compared to these levels in the control group (14.05 ± 3.2). Also, mean serum copper levels were significantly decreased in MS patients (88.58 ± 19.56) compared to the levels in the control group (110.37 ± 37.1).
Conclusion:
The findings of this study show that serum levels of Iron, Zinc and Copper in patients with MS are different from those in normal population."
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