A cup of tea or three

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Re: A cup of tea or three

Postby NHE » Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:38 am

As my blood pressure has been on the high side, e.g., 138/90, I have decided to give the hibiscus tea a trial. The docs have been wanting to put me on meds, but I don't like what I've read about them in the prescribing information (especially for the beta blocker). I just received a pound of the bulk hibiscus tea. It's been three days now drinking about 14 oz of tea with approx. two tea bags worth of hibiscus. My blood pressure was 125/79 this afternoon so I'm happy about that. It will be interesting to see if it stays low. Note that I'm also taking 50 mg/day of pterostilbene which has been found to be helpful for blood pressure, but at 3x the dose I'm using. My blood pressure monitoring has been ambiguous as to whether or not the pterostilbene has been helping, e.g., some days it's up, some days it's down.

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Re: A cup of tea or three

Postby NHE » Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:41 pm

mmpetunia wrote:i began this wanting to come at it somewhat scientifically and given that i work on a hospital unit i decided i would begin with taking my blood pressure each day i worked 3-4 times a week and keep track of the results. they ranged from 110's over 60-70's with a heart rate in the 60's each time. once while taking my blood pressure a doctor saw me and asked what i was up to. i explained that i was going to try drinking hibiscus tea to regulate my blood pressure. i told him about my often borderline high readings and my family history of high blood pressure. his response was that my pressures were fine. they were healthy and nothing to worry about and that parameters for healthy blood pressures had changed again to say that anything under 140/80 was totally fine (this is a doc who rounds on a brain injury unit with a large percentage of the patients being hypertensive stroke victims so i guess he knows what he's talking about)...eh what?! haha they have changed again?!


Here are the blood pressure guidelines from the World Health Organization. Personally, I would be happy if my blood pressure was as good as yours.

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Re: A cup of tea or three

Postby NHE » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:09 pm

Since we're on the topic of blood pressure, here's a Cochrane Review that states that there is questionable benefit from treating mild hypertension with medication.

Benefits of antihypertensive drugs for mild hypertension are unclear
http://summaries.cochrane.org/CD006742/ ... re-unclear
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Re: A cup of tea or three

Postby NHE » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:39 am

NHE wrote:As my blood pressure has been on the high side, e.g., 138/90, I have decided to give the hibiscus tea a trial. The docs have been wanting to put me on meds, but I don't like what I've read about them in the prescribing information (especially for the beta blocker). I just received a pound of the bulk hibiscus tea. It's been three days now drinking about 14 oz of tea with approx. two tea bags worth of hibiscus. My blood pressure was 125/79 this afternoon so I'm happy about that. It will be interesting to see if it stays low. Note that I'm also taking 50 mg/day of pterostilbene which has been found to be helpful for blood pressure, but at 3x the dose I'm using. My blood pressure monitoring has been ambiguous as to whether or not the pterostilbene has been helping, e.g., some days it's up, some days it's down.


I drank the hibiscus tea for about 4 or 5 weeks. My blood pressure got down to 113/79. However, I had to stop since the diuretic effect of hibiscus was becoming a problem. I was losing more fluid than I was consuming and sometimes I had to pee within 5 minutes or so of just having gone. It seems that now I get a strong diuretic effect from just one cup so I have to be conservative about when I drink it. However, my blood pressure continues to stay low. I attribute this to the pterostilbene that I'm taking. Eating 10-15 dark red cherries every couple of days or so also seems to help. Is there anybody else experimenting with hibiscus?
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Re: A cup of tea or three

Postby Anonymoose » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:40 am

NHE wrote:
NHE wrote:As my blood pressure has been on the high side, e.g., 138/90, I have decided to give the hibiscus tea a trial. The docs have been wanting to put me on meds, but I don't like what I've read about them in the prescribing information (especially for the beta blocker). I just received a pound of the bulk hibiscus tea. It's been three days now drinking about 14 oz of tea with approx. two tea bags worth of hibiscus. My blood pressure was 125/79 this afternoon so I'm happy about that. It will be interesting to see if it stays low. Note that I'm also taking 50 mg/day of pterostilbene which has been found to be helpful for blood pressure, but at 3x the dose I'm using. My blood pressure monitoring has been ambiguous as to whether or not the pterostilbene has been helping, e.g., some days it's up, some days it's down.


I drank the hibiscus tea for about 4 or 5 weeks. My blood pressure got down to 113/79. However, I had to stop since the diuretic effect of hibiscus was becoming a problem. I was losing more fluid than I was consuming and sometimes I had to pee within 5 minutes or so of just having gone. It seems that now I get a strong diuretic effect from just one cup so I have to be conservative about when I drink it. However, my blood pressure continues to stay low. I attribute this to the pterostilbene that I'm taking. Eating 10-15 dark red cherries every couple of days or so also seems to help. Is there anybody else experimenting with hibiscus?


I'm not using hibiscus tea anymore but I did notice on the clonidine that it took some time for my blood pressure to get too low and I became more sensitive to the blood pressure effect as time went on. I wonder if that is the result of blood pressure influences related to ms factors only. If it is just the result of the aldosterone part of the ms cascade, perhaps we need to fight off build up and then maintain low maintenance correction for the constant aldosterone release. I think the level of ms related bp issues would be related to disease status and levels/management of cytokine release.

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