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Has anyone heard of Stemplex?

Postby Lars » Fri May 18, 2007 4:31 pm

Don't worry I am not a distributor. I was given this stuff by a friend who claimed wonderful things. It has some things in it I was already taking i.e. Blueberry extract, and Vitamin D. It also has some other things such as algae, green tea extract and? The point being, I feel better. In fact, better than I have since my diagnosis. I have been taking it for about 8 days and I wonder, is it working or am I just remitting? I suppose that is the eternal question with this disease. I have no idea as to the cost as it was gifted to me but I think I will now check into it. The company name is (am I allowed to say this?) Simplexity. I am reading this right off the bottle: This product assists in the proliferation of adult stem cells. Quite a claim. Anyone else have any knowledge of this?
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Postby CureOrBust » Fri May 18, 2007 5:34 pm

I hadn't herd of it before, so, I searched and found their advertising web page, and felt it was full of hype. HOWEVER, I followed their research basis and found Nutraceuticals Synergistically Promote Proliferation of Human Stem Cells
The abstract didnt read too far off the advertising. The only point I could foul them on is that it was all in vitro ie test tubes.

But if it was me that had the effects, I would get some more and ask questions later (although it isnt cheap).
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Postby sunocean » Mon May 21, 2007 7:48 pm

UNDERSTANDING STEM CELL THERAPY

[Adapted from an article by Dr. Madalyn Ward - special thanks!]

Stem cells and stem cell therapy have received a lot of news coverage lately, some of it controversial, so we’ve decided to discuss stem cells and stem cell therapy in general, along with several approaches to stem cell therapy. The stem cell therapies we advocate are both legal and simple, especially with the advent of a new nutritional product called Stemplex from Simplexity Health. But first, a little about the stem cell itself...

<><> Embryonic Versus Adult Stem Cells <><>
A stem cell is an undifferentiated cell that can renew itself and develop into at least three different types of tissue. Embryonic stem cells are derived from early stage embryos and have the ability to differentiate into all adult cell types. Embryonic stem cells behave in a consistent way under a microscope but are much less predictable when injected into the body. They can offer some benefits for research but their use is controversial and they are not useful for actual treatments.

Adult stem cells reside in post-fetal animals. Examples are linage-committed such as hematopoietic stem cells that become red or white blood cells, or mesenchymal stem cells that can become many types of tissue, including bone, tendon, ligament, cartilage, heart, liver, or nerves. Sources of adult stem cells include bone marrow, fat, brain tissue, and muscles. Of all the tissues, fat yields the largest numbers of mesenchymal stem cells, while bone marrow or umbilical blood yield more stem cells that will become red or white blood cells.

<><> Types of Stem Cells <><>
There are several different categories of stem cells, including autologous, allogenic, and xenogenic. Autologous stem cells are those derived from the same animal. These are best for transplanting since there is no concern about them being rejected. Allogenic stem cells are from a donor of the same species. Since stem cells do not have the standard cell surface markers that would trigger immune response, these cells can potentially be used without fear of rejection by the host tissue. Xenogenic stem cells come from a donor of another species, such as a pig. Although one would expect these cells to be rejected, because of their unique characteristics they can survive, in some cases, when injected into the body of another species.

<><> How Do Stem Cells Work? <><>
The most commonly cited function of stem cells is their ability to differentiate into different tissues but they also have other abilities that can be very beneficial for healing. Stem cells produce over 30 types of growth factors and tissue chemicals that stimulate healing. Stem cells help recruit other local and systemic stem cells to focus on repairing damaged tissue. They are also active in immune modulation to promote or suppress T-cell function. Stem cells are triggered to move into an area by signals from the tissue based on chemical, neural, and mechanical changes. Hypoxia, which is lack of oxygen, and inflammation are strong triggers for stem cells to target an injury, although the stems cells account for less than half of the new tissue formed. The rest of the repair is done by other cells recruited and managed by the initial stem cells. This is why very tiny injections of stem cells are used. Injecting larger numbers of stem cells into an injured area can actually interfere with healing, since some of the injected cells die and must be removed during the healing process.
Under ideal conditions stem cells would respond to injuries and healing would occur. Factors that affect stem cell response include the age of the animal, the fitness of the animal, and the level of free radicals in the body. Free radicals damage all cells, including stem cells.

Stem cell therapy has huge potential and should be considered as a healing treatment for injuries or organ damage. In addition, systemic stem cell therapy shows promise in treating neurological conditions. Providing nutritional support for the body’s own stem cells is always a good option.
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Postby Lars » Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:11 pm

Sunocean,
I started my post with "I am not a distributor", are you? It seems you have much info on Stemplex. No matter the case, I still seem to be much better after nearly a month on Stemplex. It is hard for me not to attribute the improvement to Stemplex. I take nothing else at this point except Neurontin and an occational muscle relaxer. I am frankly amazed at my improvement. Thanks for the post. I also noticed your profile lacked an e-mail address. By design?
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Postby sunocean » Sat Jun 02, 2007 7:34 pm

Lars, your post showed up in a search engine and since you asked the question about Stemplex I decided to add some informative text so people could understand the difference between embryonic and adult stem cells. I am a distributor of this very new product and frankly I was impressed with your response . The reason I myself took an interest in it was that I felt that it healed a very stubborn torn ligament in my shoulder after a couple of months. Since I am not accustomed to this forum I didn't know if my email was available but I just added it to my account settings or you may contact me at briankas@earthlink.net.
By the way, Stemplex was formulated by leading university researchers (Dr. Paula Bickford, Dr. Paul Sanberg, among others), who are world-class stem cell scientists. Their work is funded by the National Institutes of Health, the Veterans Administration, and other government sources.
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Postby Lars » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:26 am

Sunocean,
Thanks for the update. I think all informative help is welcome but I'm not exactly sure about the forum rules. I think you must be careful not to appear to be using it in any way to further a corprate interest. You are always welcome to contact me directly. larsenggren@aol.com It may be worth a post to the forum administrator to make sure what is or is not o.k.
P.S. I do think this product merits some discussion on the forum based on my personal experience, but I can only speak from a perspective of "assumption".
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Postby dignan » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:36 pm

I can clarify things a bit. These quotes are from Arron on the "Rules of the Board" sticky post at the top of the General Discussion section.


NO advertising is allowed on the message boards, period. If you like a product, you can tell us about it. But if you gain financially from selling said product, your posts will be deleted and you will be banned from the site without warning. Thank you for your understanding of this simple rule.


http://www.thisisms.com/ftopict-39.html


Also from the same thread:

Links should not point to a commercial site that is selling something-- if you have a vested interest in what is being sold. For example, links to articles in scientific journals are fine, even though they are usually "for sale."
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Postby Lars » Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:48 am

Dignan,
Thanks, I was flying by the seat of my pants.
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Stemplex is a total rip off!

Postby morganator » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:47 pm

Please do not buy Stemplex until you research the cost of buying the ingredients in Stemplex individually. I do not have MS. I do have a long list of injuries, mental health issues, and other health issues. I was considering buying Stemplex or a product similar to it. Instead I found that I could buy all of the ingredients separately for anywhere from $150 dollars to $200 dollars for a 3 to 4 month supply. The cost of Stemplex is $124 for a one month supply! Wow! I am a regular shopper at my local Vitamin Shoppe and Vitamin Shoppe online. I have found that you can get the same quality of a Vitamin Shoppe products compared to other brands of the same supplement, for a much lower cost. Three of the ingredients in Stemplex, l carnosine, grean tea extract, and Klamath Lake blue green algae are supplied as Vitamin Shoppe brand names. Wildblueberry and blueberry extract must be purchased from other supplement companies, some of which are also available at the Vitamin Shoppe. I found that the best wild blueberry supplement is made by MegaFood, as it is a cold pressed natural food supplement. Even if you do not go to the Vitamin Shoppe, you will pay a significantly lower price for the supply of these ingredients than you would if you were puchasing Stemplex every month, saving you a ton of money over time. I have been taking the combination of these supplements for 2 weeks and I havent felt this good in a long time. I also eat Wyman's Wild Organic Blueberries(the most in one package for the best price i could find) everyday with Erivan plain yogurt and Back to Nature blueberry apple granola from Wholefoods, one of the healthiest meals you could eat, especially as a snack in between meals( I know I sound like an adve rtisement but I am simply trying to pass along some helpful nutritional info that also tastes surprisingly good, at least to me).
The company that manufactures and sells Stemplex would probably argue that their proprietary blend offers a unique beneficial combination of ingredients that will allow you to get the optimal benefit in the natural proliferation of stem cells in your body. I have asked around and done some of my own research and I found that proprietary blends are often Hogwash! They are used a marketing ploys to get the consumer to buy their product over others. Now you may want to talk to ur doctor or an herb or supplement specialist to find out what amount of each ingredient taking daily will hopefully have the most benefit to you. I am no expert, but i also recommend taking whole leaf aloe juice with your supplements(i like Lilly of the Earth, with polysaccharide rich absorb, which is supposed to increase the absorbtion rate of other supplements taken with it). Wholeleaf aloe juice and othe so-called glyconutrients, may also help to significantly increase the amount of stemcells circulation through the bloodstream. The theory, I believe, behind all of these supplements, is that they call on the release of stem cells from our bone marrow, i could be wrong about that.
I really hope this information is useful to those of you suffering from this awful disease. I have much compassion and empathy for all of you.

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Postby morganator » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:56 pm

I forgot one other ingredient in Stemplex, vitamin D3. As you all already know, you can also purchase this vitamin by itself through reputable supplement suppliers. I have found that you can purchase vit D3 for a very inexpensive $8 for 200 gel caps. That will give you more than a 3 to 6 month supply, depending on whether you take 1 a day or 2 a day. Again, I hope u find the information I presented useful!

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Postby sunocean » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:59 pm

Somehow I was contacted on this forum and I read over the comments. I would like to make a correction about the cost of stemplex from one of the commentators. It is actually $55 for 60 capsules, not $124. It is suggested to take 2 a day, so this is a months supply. Yes, it is a proprietary blend and I imagine it was not cheap to do the research on what seems to work.
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Postby morganator » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:34 pm

This is a reply to Sunocean. Maybe i was mistaken about the price of Simplex for a one month supply. All i know is that is was advertised on the website for $124. Even if it is only $60, anyone in their right mind would want to buy the ingredients separately as I suggested and try it out for a few months. Spending $150 at a place like the vitamin shoppe or some other health food/vitamin store for a supply that lasts potentially up to 4 mths, would still be much cheaper than buying a 4 month supply of Stemplex for $240 a month. You may even be able to spend less than $150 per month. As for the research on finding what is right for the individual being expensive, all one has to do is buy each ingredient and over the next few months play around with them to see what dosages work best. In reality,(which is not what companies that sell proprietary blends do not want you to be in) the specific blend for each individual may vary. Sure, a study may have been done to try to find the right blend that proliferates stem cells the best, but come on, if you try what I suggested, and you notice a profound difference in the way that you feel, it is worth saving the money. Please, all of you out there that are desperate to find help, don't let these companies take advantage of you when you have other options. They may have a good product that works, but why not try to save money using the same ingredients? Hey Sunocean, are you sure you are not trying to promote Stemplexity? I guess you could ask me if I were with a competing company. Than wouldnt I try to inconspicuously suggest the product sold by the company I was with? Besides, I also suggested using whole leaf aloe and other glyconutrients, as they also have potential to proliferate stem cell production in the body. To everyone out there, I am simply someone that likes to tell people the truth and inform people of better options that may be more helpful or more affordable. You can call me a kind of consumer activist. I also like to inform people about regenerative treatments for orthopeadic purposes(treatments that your orthopeadic surgeon does not want you to know about) that are non invasive and currently available, like platelete rich plasma or prp treatment, and soon to be available or already is, mesenchymal stem cell treatment of orthopeadic purposes(where the doctor extracts stem cells in your own bone marrow and injects them into the joint that is injured). Anyway, please try the alternative before you waste too much money on something that may just as effecive but empties your pocket much faster.

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Postby morganator » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:51 pm

Oops! I just went back and read your earlier post Sunocean, you admitted to being a distributor! Wow, think you made a boo boo. Not sure that this website is very welcoming of people trying to sell a product. Now your response to me makes perfect sense! Again, to everyone out there, please be wary of people that work as distributors, they cannot be trusted. I'm sure, Sunocean, that Simplex is a decent product. Actually, all of the ingredients in it are things that I believe anyone should be consuming on a daily basis, except maybe Klamath blue green algae, which I forgot to mention has some controversy over potential toxins that are in Klamath lake contaminating Klamath blue grean algae products. A good alternative to Klamath blue green algae may be Spirulina blue grean algae(also is, I believe, can be purchased from MegaFood, a company that offers cold pressed natural food supplements, making them more bioavailable. I take the MegaFood multi). You can look up spirulina online to see if it may have the same benefit. Currently, I am taking klamath lake blue green algae that I bought from the vitami shoppe for about $40 to $45 for 300 capsules, 500mgs. I may switch to spirulina when I am finished with the Klamath blue green algae if I find that there is a risk in consuming the Klamath form. It never hurts to do your research before you spend more money than is necessary.

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Postby morganator » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:15 am

Just looked up the price of Stemplex on the Simplexity website. It was listed at $55 wholesale and $68.75 retail. Maybe as a distributor you can purchase it at wholesale and sell it for $60. Anyway, Here is a list of the products and prices that I purchased.

-Vitamin Shoppe Klamath Lake Blue Green Algae-$50(sorry I said it was 40 or 45) 300 capsules, 500mgs. If you take one a day, it will last you almost 10 months! 2 a day will last you almost 5 months!

-Vitamin Shoppe Green Tea-$36, 300 capsules, 250mgs green tea extract-1 a day will last almost 10 mths! 2 a day will last 5 mths!

-Vitamin Shoppe Carnosine-$37, 100 capsules, 500mgs-1 a day will last you 3 months. It is recommended that 500mgs is the highest dose. Lower doses may even be better. So you may be able to make this last even longer. Higher doses more than 500mg are believed to be less effective and maybe harmful, depending on age. It always helps to do the research.

-Megafoods Wild Blueberry Supplement-$25, 90 capsules, 3 month supply
As I think I mentioned before, I like Megafoods because their supplements are cold pressed and natural whole food supplements. You may find a better deal on wild blueberry somewhere else. Maybe Wholefoods? This will last you about 3 mths but you may get a better deal that lasts even longer.

-Vit D3, the best type-$8, 200 veggie caps, 1000 I.U.-a 6 month supply-this was vitamin shoppe as well but you can find it this cheap at other places I believe

-Need to check on the Blueberry Extract, be right back with that
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Postby morganator » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:43 am

-2 options for blueberry extract i found online at the vitamin shoppe. Again, you may find better deals elsewhere.

-Solaray Blueberry Leaf Extract-$13, 60 capsules, 1 capsule per serving, 2 types of blueberry leaf extract, one at 100mg and one at 125mg. And it had some antioxidant base, im guessing for synergistic or bioavailability purposes.

-Life Extension Blueberry Extract-$18, 60 veggie caps, 1 cap per serving, Wild Blueberry 350mg, Vitablue Wild Blueberry 150:1 Extract, Vitablue Wild Blueberry 130:1 Extract

It appears that the Life Extension may be the superior product, though it is more expensive. Both of these are fairly inexpensive and will last you 2 months. Like I said, you may be able to find a better deal on blueberry extract elsewhere.

If you do the math, I think you will find that the route I am taking towards attempting to significantly proliferate stem cells in my body, is much less costly than paying for a supply of Stemplex every for the rest of your life. I think if you talk to your doctor or talk to an herbalist, they too will agree that you would most likely get the same benefit and save a lot of money. Sure, you have to take more pills but it is worth it. If you do some research on what to take along with these supplements to increase the rate of absorption, I'm sure you will find some helpful information on the internet. There are some questions as to whether we absorb much or any of some of the supplements that are marketed, including Klamath Lake blue green algae. I think there are things we can do to increase that absorption rate. Again, do the research. It costs nothing but some time and effort!

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