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Haptens can trigger MS

Postby Jerzy » Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:19 pm

I am author of a poster about environmental and genetic factors which can trigger MS. This poster is on my: http://www.haptens.republika.pl/images/poster.jpg
This poster had number P15 and was presented at International Conference "Advances in Clinical Neuroimmunology", which took place on 7-8 December 2007 in Poznan, Poland. I have evidence that MS is relatively easy to predict, prevent and arrest.
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Postby ElmerPhd » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:44 am

Jerzy,

Some interesting ideas presented in that poster, but no actual data to support them. Can you provide a link to your papers published in English peer-reviewed journals please? Or maybe give us an idea of the experiments you've done to support your hypotheses?

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Postby Jerzy » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:03 am

ElmerPhd wrote: ...Can you provide a link to your papers published in English peer-reviewed journals please? Or maybe give us an idea of the experiments you've done to support your hypotheses?...


ElmerPhd,

The theory about biochemical interaction between humans was published for the first time in Russian by Rumyantsev S.N.; Grzeszczuk J.: "Nasilno mil ne budesh". Chimia i Zizn. Academy of Sciences of U.S.S.R. Moscow. January 1990. 1, pages: 34-37.

Then the theory was published in English peer reviewed medical journals:

1) Rumyantsev S.N., Grzeszczuk J.: "Pathogenic Effects of the Human Chemical Biofield". Medical Hypotheses. Churchill Livingstone of Edinburgh, London, New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Sydney and Toronto. 1995; 45, 1: 94-98. http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve ... 7795902112 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8524 ... t=Abstract

2) Grzeszczuk J.: "Lewis Antigens as a Possible Cause of Sudden Death of Previously Healthy Adults and Infants and of Diseases and Phenomena Linked to Tissue Ischemia". Medical Hypotheses. Churchill Livingstone of Edinburgh, London, New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Sydney and Toronto.1997; 49, 525-527. http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve ... 7797900748 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9466 ... stractPlus

3) Marcinkowski T.: "On the possibility of preventing multiple sclerosis". Medical Hypotheses. Churchill Livingstone of Edinburgh, London, New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Sydney and Toronto. 1998, 51: 445-446. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9848 ... stractPlus

4) Marcinkowski T.: "The diseases of Alzheimer and Pick from the viewpoint of prevention". Medical Hypotheses. Churchill Livingstone of Edinburgh, London, New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Sydney and Toronto. 1996, 46, 180-182.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8676 ... stractPlus

I can show practically in a laboratory:
1) how to make tests of blood and saliva;
2) how to find haptens and antibodies which trigger MS;
3) how to predict, prevent, arrest and treat MS.

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Postby jimmylegs » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:36 am

i love the med hypotheses j as much as anyone, and i take some of their stuff to heart personally, but those studies are still all published as hypotheses if anyone's a stickler.
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Postby Jerzy » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:43 pm

jimmylegs wrote:i love the med hypotheses j ... but those studies are still all published as hypotheses ...

Jimmylegs,
The above mentioned articles were published 1990 - 1998. Now it is 2008. I have been testing haptens and antibodies since 1982 (for 26 years). Results of my tests confirm the hypothesis, and therefore in 2007 I published the poster: http://www.haptens.republika.pl/images/poster.jpg

I have evidence, that I discovered the cause of MS. Now I'm looking for people, who would like to check up the discovery. I want to show them the tests practically, but it is not easy. All say: "the cause of MS is unknown".

Jimmylegs,
You wrote 1685 posts / 4.07% of total / 2.04 posts per day. You are very active. Can you help me to find medical doctors, scientists..., who would like to see the laboratory tests?

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Postby ElmerPhd » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:54 am

But Medical Hypotheses is NOT peer reviewed. It is simply a place to put forward scientific ideas outside of the mainstream.
Anyone can have a hypothesis about something, but the important thing is whether it can withstand rigourous testing. You say you have conducted the experiments to inform your ideas, Jerzy, but your poster does not contain any data that i can see. If you produce the data, people are far more likely to sit up and listen. Even if it's preliminary data, some of us might be able to help, but we'd want a few more details of the experiments and results you have that have convinced you your position is correct.

I await your reply with interest.
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Postby Jerzy » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:36 am

ElmerPhd wrote:...But Medical Hypotheses is NOT peer reviewed. It is simply a place to put forward scientific ideas outside of the mainstream...

You are right. Medical Hypotheses is NOT peer reviewed. I understood this today after reading "Peer usage versus peer review" by Bruce Charlton Editor in Chief of the journal Medical Hypotheses: http://medicalhypotheses.blogspot.com/2 ... eview.html

ElmerPhd wrote:...You say you have conducted the experiments to inform your ideas, Jerzy, but your poster does not contain any data that i can see...

My poster does not contain any data about my tests of haptens and antibodies, but on my poster there is a table with: haptens excreted, blood groups and antibodies. Until 1999 all tests of antigens (haptens): A, B, H in saliva, and blood groups: A, B, 0 and antibodies were done in a professional laboratory by prof. Tadeusz Marcinkowski M.D. Phil.D. Since 2000 I started to test haptens: A1, A2, B, H, Le(a), Le(b) and antibodies, in my laboratory. Results of the tests gave me evidence, that the table on my poster is valid in about 80% cases of MS and some other autoimmune diseases. Every case of biochemical interaction between humans is another case. It is a long story and I have published about some cases in my books. One of the books: "Hapten (Antigen) Actions of Organisms - The Cause of Many Phenomena and Diseases" (in Polish) ISBN 8387790052, was published in 1998, had 315 pages and was reviewed by 3 professors medical doctors Phil.D.
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Postby jimmylegs » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:46 am

hi there, i am active on this site only. the rest of the people in my life are either unaware, or skeptical. in spite of my taking no medication and self-treating with quite a few various successes, my doctors are pretty skeptical so unfortunately, i don't know that i'd be able to interest them in having a look. there are some sciency folk on here that will likely have a peek in.
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Postby Jerzy » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:15 am

Here is my latest poster on the cause of MS:
http://www.haptens.republika.pl/images/haptens.pdf

A friend of mine has received an opinion about the poster from a neurologist: <<... I would say that this theory about haptens (foreign antigens) and MS is interesting. The thought that some combination of a foreign protein (antigen) fooling our immune system in a genetically susceptible individual leading to an autoimmune disease (like MS) is pretty much in line with the current science. Where he is going out on a limb is in stating that he can detect these antigens and prevent/treat MS. See the following link for a discussion: http://www.thisisms.com/ftopict-5728-.html >>
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Postby borobudur » Tue May 31, 2011 5:53 am

While an initial reading of your poster left me skeptical, a cursory google search on haptens has me intensely interested. Unfortunately I'm not a researcher, simply an interested patient, so I wish you luck in your future research endeavors.

Would you be willing to clarify on your claim that MS can be "arrested"?

No worries on me getting my hopes up, I've learned over the decade I've been diagnosed with this disease that no one can help me. Whether or not this is true, it has become an effective coping mechanism. :)

Pharmaceuticals such as HP Acthar Gel have left me more disabled and traumatized than any of the natural things I've tried, so I'm willing to at least learn more about this.

Thank you.
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Postby Jerzy » Tue May 31, 2011 7:45 am

borobudur wrote:While an initial reading of your poster left me skeptical, a cursory google search on haptens has me intensely interested. Unfortunately I'm not a researcher, simply an interested patient, so I wish you luck in your future research endeavors.

Would you be willing to clarify on your claim that MS can be "arrested"? ...

Hi Borobudur,

Thanks for your answer. I have my website, which is published in Polish. Please open this link: http://www.haptens.republika.pl/haptenology_pl.html and translate it into English using Google translator. You will find there my newest knowledge on HAPTENS - the cause of CCSVI, MS and all autoimmune diseases.

I have also English version of my website: http://www.haptens.republika.pl/haptenology_en.html but it is a short version of my Polish website, not good translated by me.

If you have another questions, please write me PM. Writing will help me to improve my English.

Best wishes,
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Postby LokeRundt » Tue May 31, 2011 10:32 am

So why hasn't this been taken up by the actual medical community? Or has it? Even the wikipedia article I found on haptens was noted as needing citation/verification
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Postby leetz » Tue May 31, 2011 7:10 pm

I feel the same about what the so called medications have done to me...I am checking into the Wheldon Protocol, as the MS drug's have in my opinion, not made me better....we have to b e our own researcher's/Doctor's because unfortunately there is no cure and everyone has different result's with every knid of drug...(i don't think my body responds very well to toxin's and I am tired of taking them (you must remember this illness alone drive's billion's of dollar's industry for pharma companie's) we all know this...so trying my own thing for me...already did FDA clinical trial Campath...i did relapse and was made better with steroid's but all in all no real improvement...waiting on more research for CCSVI which by the way did make me feel better (only for about 3 week's though)...do not want to do permanate damage so until there is something that can effectively (without harm) keep the vein(s) open i will wait patiently...and the whole idea of an underlying infection makes sense to me...soooooooooo...after this long post, just wanted you to know that this is my way of dealing with this disease..also gonna try to be more natural with my diet and vitamin supplement(s)...will keep all updated once I start wheldon protocol!

Blessing's!
GOD BLESS.... CCSVI treatment Dr. Siskin great doc....symptom's improved for about 3 week's (gait, balance, spasticity) now back to square 1...
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Postby LokeRundt » Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:10 am

Yeah, patent law is patently ridiculous. It grants privilege enforced by government violence. Even when you have generic brands the name brand keeps about 30% of the market, yet more affordable alternatives are available for the people.
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