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Postby NHE » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:03 pm

This is interesting... prescription fish oil: http://www.lovaza.com/

What's more interesting is that they list trans fat as an inert ingredient.
Lovaza Prescribing Information wrote:LOVAZA capsules also contain the following inactive ingredients: 4 mg α -tocopherol (in a carrier of partially hydrogenated vegetable oils including soybean oil), and gelatin, glycerol, and purified water (components of the capsule shell).


What were they thinking?

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Re: Lovaza

Postby cheerleader » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:28 pm

NHE wrote:
What were they thinking?

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Postby DIM » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:49 am

In my country Merck sells the product Omacor that contains 950mg omega-3 per caps:
www.omacor.com
In Germany many doctors presrcibe it for cardiovascular problems.
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Postby CureOrBust » Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:12 am

What are the concentrations of these two products? The one I take was the highest concentration I could find of DHA. I am wondering how it compares?

http://www.blackmores.com.au/Products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=2080

Concentrated omega-3 triglycerides-fish 1 g (1000 mg) containing omega-3 marine triglycerides 600mg as:

Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) 100 mg
Docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) 500 mg

No added salt, yeast, gluten, wheat, milk derivatives, preservatives, artificial colours, flavours or sweeteners.


It says "no flavours" (artificial) but they have obviously added vanilla to the capsules, to cover the taste & smell of fish.
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Re: Lovaza & Omacor

Postby NHE » Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:45 am

CureOrBust wrote:What are the concentrations of these two products? The one I take was the highest concentration I could find of DHA. I am wondering how it compares?


From the links...

Lovaza: 465/375 mg EPA/DHA - This capsule actually contains ethyl esters of DHA and EPA so those might have different physiological effects. The presence of trans fat sort of taints it though (kind of like having used coffee grounds in your 75% cocoa dark chocolate).

Omacor: 900 mg total omega-3 fats. "These are predominantly ethyl esters of eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) 460 mg and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) 380 mg."

For comparisons sake, I'm currently taking 6 g/day of fish oil which provides 1800 mg of omega-3 fats that break down to 720 mg DHA and 1080 mg EPA. This is the same quantity of fish oil that was used in this study http://www.thisisms.com/ftopicp-29788.html#29788

Edit: Actually, the above statement about the fish oil study is not correct. The study used a prescription strength omega-3 capsule which contained EPA+DHA at 86% of 1000 mg for a total dose of 5.16g/day of EPA+DHA omega-3 fatty acids. With the fish oil capsules that I use, I would have to take 14 capsules/day or 16.8 g/day to reach 5.04g/day of EPA+DHA.

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Postby cheerleader » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:44 pm

I may be a cynic, but I still think this is about glaxo smith kline trying to get a piece of the natural supplements market....they just made fish oil look more "sciency."

Jeff takes Carlson Super Omega 3- 1000mg which contains 300mg EPA, 200mg. DHA- he takes 2 a day. 280 soft gels for $13 on vitacost...means about $3 a month. Betcha the pharma's costs a bit more and the doctors and insurance companies get a piece of that pie.

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Postby DIM » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:47 am

I believe you can't be cheap with omega-3, they should be free of heavy metals and highly concentrated otherwise you need more than 5-6 caps per day to achieve the 2 grams target, not to mention they may have high quantities of vitamin A and E.
I give 2 caps/day Solgars Omega-3 950 to my wife that are quite expensive although they are free of tocopherols (usually soya byproducts) and passed from x-ray for heavy metals.
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Postby cheerleader » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:41 am

DIM wrote:I believe you can't be cheap with omega-3, they should be free of heavy metals and highly concentrated otherwise you need more than 5-6 caps per day to achieve the 2 grams target, .


Agree, Dim! Carlson is a reputable, family-owned business in the states (Illinois). I know I'm getting good, fresh fish oil- This is from their products:
"THIS PRODUCT is regularly tested (using AOAC international protocols) for freshness, potency and purity by an independent, FDA-registered laboratory and has been determined to be fresh, fully potent and free of detectable levels of mercury, cadmium, lead, PCB's and 28 other contaminants."

I'm not going cheap on Jeff's supplements, just getting a good deal from a reputable company. My comment on cost was more about a DRUG company trying to get in on the health food market. It reminds me of fancy designer water sold in sciency bottles, so they can mark up the cost.

That said, how is your wife doing? I'm hoping she's stable and you have a handle on her relapses. It's always good to see your name pop up, Dmitris!
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Postby DIM » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:31 pm

My wife - thanks god - is fine Cheer at least for now, who knows in the future?
She is going to have some blood tests this week for liver enzymes, vitamins etc we see if their levels are normal.
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Re: Lovaza

Postby DavisHealth » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:03 pm

NHE wrote:This is interesting... prescription fish oil: http://www.lovaza.com/

What's more interesting is that they list trans fat as an inert ingredient.
Lovaza Prescribing Information wrote:LOVAZA capsules also contain the following inactive ingredients: 4 mg α -tocopherol (in a carrier of partially hydrogenated vegetable oils including soybean oil), and gelatin, glycerol, and purified water (components of the capsule shell).


What were they thinking?

NHE


I have heard this before, and have searched this document, but cannot find where it says they use partially hydrogenated soybean oil... can you tell me where exactly in the document it says this? Thanks very much. :)
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Re: Lovaza

Postby euphoniaa » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:56 pm

DavisHealth wrote:
NHE wrote:This is interesting... prescription fish oil: http://www.lovaza.com/

What's more interesting is that they list trans fat as an inert ingredient.
Lovaza Prescribing Information wrote:LOVAZA capsules also contain the following inactive ingredients: 4 mg α -tocopherol (in a carrier of partially hydrogenated vegetable oils including soybean oil), and gelatin, glycerol, and purified water (components of the capsule shell).


What were they thinking?

NHE


I have heard this before, and have searched this document, but cannot find where it says they use partially hydrogenated soybean oil... can you tell me where exactly in the document it says this? Thanks very much. :)


Hello, DavisHealth,

The reason for the discrepancy is likely because this is a thread from the year 2008, and the link now goes to a version of Prescribing Information with a footnote stating "Revised: December 2010".
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