Helminthic therapy(treatment using hookworms)

Tell us what you are using to treat your MS-- and how you are doing.

Postby Lyon » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:21 pm

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Postby Apuman » Thu May 06, 2010 4:43 pm

4 wees since taking the hookworms...

I just want to give you an update on how I'm faring. Since the rash went away, the only symptom I can maybe attribute to the worms is on/off bouts of diariah that started about 2 weeks ago. It's also possible that settling into a different place with a different lifestyle is contributing to it. Thankfully, it's becoming less frequent.

My MS seems to be doing well. I had an attack start 2 days before treatment, that began subsiding 1 1/2 weeks after treatment, and has now almost completly recovered. The recovery seems to have started sooner and happened more quickly than previous ones, so this is certainly good news!

Still getting out and exercising every week, and taking daily shots of some incredibly tasty fruit juice full of reveritrol (since it was just given to me, why not?) Now if I start trying to sell it to you, that's when you can start getting worried :wink:
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Postby Lyon » Thu May 06, 2010 5:10 pm

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Postby Apuman » Thu May 06, 2010 8:07 pm

Lyon wrote:Personally I think your results are very hopeful so far.

In my mind I'd like to but am not going to credit the worms to bringing down what would have been a full blown relapse but I've always been convinced that it's a hell of a lot easier to control a fire by keeping it from starting than trying to tame it at full fury.

The point, if I really have one, is that I'm elated that the relapse is gone because that seems to raise the odds that the future is going to show positive results.


My thoughts exactly!
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Postby shye » Fri May 21, 2010 4:18 pm

Apuman,
how is it going at this point?
Can I be bold enough to ask if you would post at some sort of regular schedule, like every 2-3 weeks, so we can follow your "saga"? I find this fascinating, and of course, if it works, it is so doable 8O
thanks
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Postby Apuman » Sun May 23, 2010 10:46 am

I'm happy to keep posting my progress on here, and I'm glad to hear you're taking interest to the idea. I had just poped over here to do exactly that :)

It'now been a little over 6 weeks since the treatment and the beginning of my last attack. All of the sensation symptomes resulting from the attack have either nearly or completly returned to their pre-attack levels. I'm still noticing some minor coordination and walking issues. For me, flairups in motor function tend to follow flairups in sensation. The effects have been much more mild in this attack, for instance: During my previous attack in Oct. '09 I was having serious difficulty with stairs. The past 5 weeks, I've been walking up and down the 2 flights of stairs that lead to my appartment with no problem!

The most unpleasant part of the last few weeks has been the frequency that I've had to use the toilet. I feel fairly sure that this is in a large part due to the worms. I've also had some bothersome stomach aches. There are plenty of times when I feel just fine, however, like right now.

As I've stated in previous posts, I'll only really be able to form a clear idea of how well they're working after a good deal of time has past. I did, however, recently have an experience that made me more certain of their effectiveness.

I was walking out of the grocery store the other day, and there was an apple tree in full bloom planted by the entrance. Normally, my alergies would start acting up just being near it, but no! I even felt brave enough to walk right up and take a great big whiff of it's wonderful scent.

So what does this have to do with hookworms and MS? Well, one of the added perks to hosting hookworms is that the immune response that they cause, the one that meant to put my MS under control, also is shown to help with allergies. So far, this is the most concrete sign that the worms are having an effect!

To that good news, I will add that I still get irritation from cats, and the true test of it's effectiveness on alergies will be when summer gets into full swing, lawns being mowed, hayfields being hayed, all that good stuff that's never failed to drive my alrgies crazy.....

...........yet!
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Postby lyndacarol » Tue May 25, 2010 6:31 pm

As you folks know, my focus is on excess insulin, not parasites. But I have been watching the Dr. Oz TV program again and today (Tuesday, 5/25/10) he spent much time on the topic of parasites. I thought you might be interested in what he said about hookworms (parasite #2 -- on page 2):

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/invaders ... rawly-kind
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Postby Lyon » Tue May 25, 2010 6:45 pm

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Postby Lyon » Tue May 25, 2010 6:55 pm

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Postby lyndacarol » Wed May 26, 2010 5:10 pm

Bob -- I cannot find video for the link you supplied. The transcript seems to be from a February 2010 program, which I did not see. It does seem to give more information on different critters from those on the program I saw on Tuesday, May 25, 2010. Interesting, but yucky!
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Postby shye » Fri May 28, 2010 6:28 am

Thanks Apuman for the continuing update on your saga.
I also have the severe allergies to nature--please continue to let us know if this seriously abates.
Stair info also important--I am in a 5th floor walkup :roll:
Are you getting your bloods checked re anemia? Taking supplements re: the diarhhea?
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Postby Lyon » Fri May 28, 2010 7:02 am

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Postby Apuman » Fri May 28, 2010 1:23 pm

shye wrote:Are you getting your bloods checked re anemia? Taking supplements re: the diarhhea?



Lyon wrote:Everything you've mentioned doesn't sound out of the ordinary from what the people writing in to the Ovamed site used to relay.


I'll say a few things about the diarhhea: It appears consistent with the diarhhea I've experienced while traveling internationally (usually caused when the digestive system encounters unfamiliar microbes) The major difference is that this bout seem pretty much under control with the occasional shot of Pepto.

I will be checking for anemia at about the 3 month mark. I'm not currently supplimenting for it, but if it comes up low on my test, I figure I should consult with my doctor and go from there.

lyndacarol wrote:Interesting, but yucky!


I get that a lot, actually. I love seeing the looks on people's faces when I tell them :wink:

After all, why wouldn't people act in shock an disgust? All of our lives, we've been told about parasites as something harmful, something to avoided. It doesn't help that hookworms look rather hellspawnish in electron microscope images.

You could call it a sort of parasite stereotype that I've had to overcome in realizing that there's also a symbiotic element to the hookworm-human relationship.
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