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Postby jimmylegs » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:23 am

you need someone who does it right from the start anyway, anon. i have caused myself serious problems over the last few yrs by doing things wrong. so i don't expect great things from my mri review. the appt is not til nov! long waits.
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Postby Anonymoose » Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:03 pm

jimmylegs wrote:you need someone who does it right from the start anyway, anon. i have caused myself serious problems over the last few yrs by doing things wrong. so i don't expect great things from my mri review. the appt is not til nov! long waits.

We all screw up but now you've got it all balanced out. So, get an MRI in November and compare it to the NEXT MRI in a couple of years. :P In the meantime find and mentor a newbie duckling so we can see what happens when you do it right from the start. (I am obviously too reckless and ADHD to be your duckling and have already earned 3 lesions whilst I've been screwing up)

Btw, what is up with your healthcare system??? I called Thursday afternoon and was in the tube Friday morning. My doc had results before or on Monday. The only bad thing about having McDonald's drive thru type healthcare is that you can smell the greasy food from the cafe all the way in the radiology department. Yuck! What's up with the fried food in a hospital?!

Oh and I want to do the d3, mag, zinc, selenium to try to help keep ebv under wraps after rituxan. The problem is I am screwing something up with my supplements and after a while I have to take a break because they stir up symptoms. What am I setting off balance with the supplements? I've tried taking them with either a b complex or a multi with b's. I've balanced zinc with copper and I've done zinc w no copper. Very annoying! You are going to say have your levels tested and I will after Rituxber. But what should I have tested?
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby jimmylegs » Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:59 pm

no my last bloodwork everything was low and I had been feeling crappy. didn't do so well with eating or supplementing while I was out of work.

by the way I am not waiting for the mri itself, just the specialist in the ms clinic. I've had a few mris already this year, knee, brain, spine, wheeee :S

I am wiped so will have to tackle your supplement/testing question in the am. worked allll day today, running a couple labs tomorrow, feeling underprepared!
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby Scott1 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:59 am

and we end up back at my old friend, peroxynitrite..

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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby jimmylegs » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:53 pm

recovering from surgery. a few firsts today - iv, general anaesthesia, surgery, morphine.. I lived!
took extra b-complex before, for defense against any b12 consequences of the anaesthetic.
and now taking extra magnesium after, to help my body deal with the physical trauma.
ooh I forgot to pick up probiotics. they ran some abx through my iv.
pretty interesting day. i woke up at 2:30am though, and it's still a long way til bedtime!
i think the pain killers are wearing off :S eep!
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby jimmylegs » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:37 am

omg so much pain last night i was pretty close to losing my dinner :S narrow escape. lots of T3s today. and zinc to help protect my poor liver from the acetaminophen :S
still need some pbx but not going anywhere by car for the time being
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby Anonymoose » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:00 am

Sending healing vibes your way. You know you can get non-aceto pain killers, dontchya? Also, if you are in pain don't do that stuff upper lip thing. Call and ask for a better pain killer! Then enjoy a nice loopy day or two. :P

Feel better.
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Postby WarmOutToday » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:59 am

what? jimmylegs surgery? no way 8O


hope you feel better soon. people over here need you, i've barely begun picking ur brain :)
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby jimmylegs » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:20 pm

hi anon, thank you! I know about aspirin and ibuprofen of course, but not if they package it with codeine? I was a smidge off my game coming out of the general, with added morphine to boot!

I am SUCH a stiff upper lip personality but.. HOLY CRAP not with this. i'm either imagining it or the reconstruction hurts worse than the original injury.

don't worry WOT, i'm still alive :) thanks for your concern!

OOO I think it's time, I can take another pill! (mark that down for posterity hehe)
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby Anonymoose » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:36 pm

Yep. You can get ibuprofen with codeine. I think it's called nurofen. From my experience, docs and dentists are pretty willing to switch your prescription if you want to avoid acetaminophen. Just call them up, leave a message for doc, and they'll call in a new prescription. Of course, you'll still have to figure out how to get to the pharmacy again. :(

I've only swapped Vicodin for vicoprofen...the vicoprofen works as well for pain but doesn't make you quite as spacey (still a bit sleepy though).

You aren't barfing your precious kale, are you?! :P
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby jimmylegs » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:59 pm

k noted thx :) kale is staying in so far - with its pals salmon and sweet potato naturally :)

owww : (......
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby jimmylegs » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:21 am

OK now 4 days out from surgery.

musings:

I have a love-HATE relationship with my pain killers - a lifesaving necessary evil..

love tally:
-far less pain

HATE TALLY:
-no driving. i'm trapped!
-drugs give me the queasies
-brain struggling with academia
-I could do without being backed up quite this much
where is mag oxide when you need it?? water, peaches and high dose mag citrate to the rescue :S

ok back to marking papers (!?!?) busy busy :S
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby jimmylegs » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:54 am

ALL RIGHT feeling like a marking machine at this stage, got em down to 10 minutes flat :) took me a while to get there.

still popping pain killers like candy though :S boo hoo
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby jimmylegs » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:21 am

stumbled on something somewhat related to the issues with zinc-deficient wheat (higher gliadin fraction) discussed elsewhere on the site..

marking soil study 'results' section submissions, and went looking for a good published example.
found this title and the format looked good. when I got into the content I thought it was pretty interesting..:

http://projects.cals.ncsu.edu/ristaino/ ... rticle.pdf
3.2 Soil chemical components
Several soil chemical factors were affected by soil fertility amendments and time (Fig. 3). Calcium concentrations in soils with alternative fertility amendments were increased two-fold over the 2-year period. In contrast, no increase in calcium concentrations occurred in soils with the synthetic fertilizers (P < 0.01, Fig. 3A). Similarly, magnesium concentrations more than doubled in soils amended with alternative fertility amendments, whereas only slight increases in magnesium concentrations were observed in soils with synthetic fertilizers over the same time period (P < 0.01, Fig. 3B). Potassium concentrations in soils amended with alternative fertility amendments increased by a factor of 3, and were higher at the end of the second year in soils with alternative amendments than in soils with synthetic fertility amendments, whereas potassium concentrations decreased over time in soils with synthetic fertilizers (P = 0.01, Fig. 3C). Soil manganese concentrations increased over time in soils amended with alternative fertility amendments, but decreased in soils with synthetic fertilizers (P = 0.02, Fig. 3D). Boron increased in soils with alternative fertility amendments over time whereas no differences in boron concentration were observed in soils with synthetic fertilizers (P = 0.003, Fig. 3E).

good rationale for choosing organic :)

the treatments used in this study did not differ from synthetic fertilizer wrt effect on soil zinc. which begs the next question :)
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Re: MS Nutrition-summary pts 1st post, p.1

Postby jimmylegs » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:02 am

back in lectures for first time since surgery. it's all about research stats and correlation and causation and replicability and reliability and validity etc, having a blast :) giant nerd lol
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