Ah.............so YOU are a believer that affective disorders are ALL just in someone's "head", i.e. arising from their "mood" and conscious thought processes. Without the involvement of adrenal or hormones, too, I bet. No such thing as the HPA axis or serotonin, dopamine or norepinephrine being out of whack? Probably not, as those things are all "physical" causes. Well, I'm sure you will find many who will differ with you completely - especially WOMEN! HAH!
I wouldn't exactly say neuropsychiatry is primitive whatsoever. And studies supported by the NIMH I would believe hold considerable weight.
But, I agree with you. Time to drop it.
(But note...........out of total respect for YOU, I never asked YOU to "prove" where you read the studies YOU read and came to your conclusions, nor asked YOU to provide references and post them. In otherwords, I never intimated YOU as being a liar when you simply spoke of the "recent study" you just talked about, did I?)
As the movie says............analyze that!
Ok.........I think I'll leave you with this:
And a study out a couple of weeks ago shows that for those with depression, Cognitive-Behavioral therapy is as effective as antidepressants.
Therefore, wouldn't that study then be implying that anti-depressant medications are nothing more than "sugar pills"? Well, I beg to differ with THAT study! Oh, and by the way.........advise an MS patient with cognitive problems to "think happy thoughts" and they'll get much better. Then run for cover and/or DUCK!
I don't believe that thinking happy thoughts and talking to a counselor would cure brain lesions.
point! Nor would I think that those same things would always cure clinical depression!
Also, depression is only diagnosed from symptoms, e.g., feeling depressed, not sleeping well, etc.
hmmmmmmmmm......that's funny, I myself was diagnosed with "clinical" depression based on a "chemical imbalance" WAY back in the 80s. It had nothing to do with my "mood" or behavior, which was fine, and there was NO evidence of "mental disorder" when fully examined by psychologists. It was a complete "physical" dysfunction diagnosis, not mental in the least. Of course, they NOW wanted to say it was MS instead back then. Based on the exact same symptoms, too! ALL of which were "physical", not "mental". Now how in the world could medical professionals get those two conditions mixed up? hmmmmmmmmmmmm............... funny how MS researchers in numerous countries are finding in MANY instances how anti-depressants (which DO work for many types of depression) ALSO appear to provide immune system regulation AND neuronal protection in MS (as I provided above). hmmmmmmmmm............ confusing indeed!
There is no such thing as an asymptomatic mental disorder.
Are you SURE about that? I thought it was too "primitive" to reach any firm conclusions at this point? Actually, your statement is probably correct (although, the field of neuropsychiatry are obviously and apparently finding that that's not always true). The term "mental disorder" again implies that any
type of depression is simply all in someone's "mind", and could not POSSIBLY arise from anything physical (which such belief would also include side-effects from medications. Depression caused by a drug side-effect is "physical".) Actually, Daunted, I'm astounded! So, you would rapidly advise a "client" who came to you with "depression" that it was "all in their head", and could not POSSIBLY be caused by anything physical or any physical imbalance whatsoever? You sure you're not a "neuro"?
But.............you're right. Whichever "side" of the equation you are expressing you believe in. It's hard to tell, actually.
Have a good one!! All the best!