TWG wrote:When I was first tested for MRTC I had them, which was a concern, I was hoping they would be zero. They also were able to make my Vaccine in about 6weeks. Was shocked to find out I was on Tovaxin the whole time. Then I remembered what Opexa had stated previously (see below). A guess here would be that it was working initially and then my myelin-reactive T-cell profile changed. That's why I'm leaning to continue in the OLTERMS. This also may be why some think Tovaxin is worthless. I have asked my clinic to see if they can get a hold of my MRTC counts during the trail. Were the vials to test for this? It might explain why initially I thought I was on tovaxin, then latter started to get worse and my thoughts then switched to placebo.
“Approximately three out of four patients re-treated in the second year exhibited a change in their myelin-reactive T-cell profile, which was the basis for producing their individualized T cell vaccine,” said David McWilliams, president and chief executive officer of Opexa. “We believe this new data supports the continuation of our development strategy of individually monitoring patients with our proprietary epitope analysis assay and re-treating them with a patient-specific therapeutic vaccine that associates with their clinical status.”
Any ideas here?
Lyon wrote:Thanks for the notice.
When the time comes I hope we do ultimately find out what is behind the mixed Tovaxin results we've seen along the way.
My point, and I think most any sensible person's point, is that the information doesn't yet exist to accurately say either that "Tovaxin sucks" or that it's a miracle cure, but any sensible person has to suspect the motives of people who profess to want to see advances for those suffering MS, yet in their ignorance obviously gloat at what they see as the crash and burn of one of the most promising MS therapies?
Proudly I'm among the first to badmouth profits being made from bee venom, goat's blood and berry juice from remote islands and clinics providing "miracles" in third world countries, but when a group of people pursue a therapy for years and years and go the money and efforts to run it through the clinical trial process, there is no joy to be had by sensible people in it's (perceived) failure.
That's why it's not necessary to prove that all these naysayers coming out of the woodwork are nitwits. Their actions alone are the proof.
Ant148 wrote: drug sucks, stock in the toilet, end of tovaxin story. oh well, shit happens...
ps Mike don't put me in your group of "flaming people who have crawled out of the shadows who seem pretty pissed off and have told all of us who are participants in this study that we are fools, that we've been scammed, that we should perform beastiality on our horses". i was in the trial to the hilt, ok? i got the actual tovaxin and it didn't help but actually hurt me. i'm not claiming anyone in the trial is a fool or has been scammed. the horse thing was in response to an asshole that attacked me unprovoked. any more explanation needed?
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