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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:05 am 
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Another Tysabri article, but it raises issues that have been discussed before - what sort of patients are enrolled into trials. Of course, the drug makers would prefer those with mild disease / early disease, then they could show that the patients didn't progress / had minimal relapses or inflammatory activity. It's a bit like some of the selective schools in the UK who only take on the brightest kids and then get fantastic exam results.

Surely the Government agencies oveseeing these trials should have more of a say about those in the trial and the measures to assess whether a drug is effective. In terms of the trialists - the patients should reflect those recently diagnosed and those living with the disease for some time. The trialists should also reflect a range of disabilities (using the EDSS score). Then at least at the end of the trial, the results would show a range of outcomes for those at different stages of this disease.

Of course the drugs companies would say that treating people early on prevents / delays later problems eg disability.

It seems to me that the drugs companies are setting the exam questions, selecting those to take the exam, and marking the exam. No wonder that they always report good results.

Surely the real test is for an independent body to set the exam questions, select those to take the exam, and mark the exam. The exam questions would not be - did it reduce relapses? did it reduce the number of lesions? They would be - did it stop the disease process? did the patient regain lost functions etc. If the drug could pass these exam questions then no-one would mind if it cost $XX,000.

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As makers seek MS drug's return, new question rises. 21 February 2006
By Denise Gellene
Los Angeles Times

A year ago this month, Anita Louise Smith died from effects of Tysabri, a drug that was supposed to help her cope with multiple sclerosis. Within days, drugmakers yanked Tysabri off the market, devastating many people with multiple sclerosis who hoped the intravenous treatment would bring them relief.

Now, as makers of the drug prepare to seek approval to put Tysabri back on the market, some prominent neurologists are arguing that Smith should not have been taking it to begin with - because she did not have MS. Smith's case dramatizes a new debate over how multiple-sclerosis drugs are tested: In recent years, drug companies have been trying out medicines on people with mild symptoms or none at all, several experts say - including some who, like Smith, might not have the disease. Critics say these trials broadened the market for MS drugs but put at risk some patients who do not need powerful new medicines.

Smith was taking the drug as part of a clinical trial that regulators had required when they granted Tysabri fast-track approval. Most of the 1,171 patients in her trial suffered no disabilities, according to Food and Drug Administration documents. "People with no active disease - in other words, people who are doing fine - shouldn't be given an experimental drug with unknown risks," said Lawrence Steinman, a Stanford University neurology professor and a co-inventor of Tysabri who previously has spoken out about the drug's dangers.

Last week, Steinman and another Stanford neurologist, Annette Langer-Gould, urged the FDA to tighten criteria for selecting patients in MS drug trials. "We are concerned that not only were patients put at risk by Tysabri, but we feel that the risk was absolutely unnecessary to assume," they wrote in an e-mail to the agency.

Biogen Idec Inc. and Elan Pharmaceuticals Inc. hope to win government permission as soon as next month to resume sales of Tysabri. They say that it is an effective treatment for multiple sclerosis and that carefully selecting and monitoring patients can manage the risks.

Biogen Idec spokeswoman Amy Brockelman said privacy requirements prevented the company from commenting on Smith's case. But all aspects of the Tysabri clinical trials were approved by the FDA and by oversight boards at the medical centers where the studies were conducted, she said.

FDA spokeswoman Susan Cruzan said the agency would not comment on matters surrounding Tysabri before an advisory panel meets March 7 to discuss the drug's possible return to the market.

Experts see the drug as a potential boon in the battle against multiple sclerosis, a disease in which errant white blood cells destroy the coating that protects cells in the brain and spinal cord. About 400,000 people in the United States have the disease.

For most patients, the disease is marked by flare-ups and remissions. Many experience only minor symptoms, such as numbness or tingling. But while the disease is seldom fatal, about half of MS patients become disabled - such as comedian Richard Pryor, who could not speak, swallow, or get out of bed unassisted in the years before he died late last year.

Source: Philadelphia Enquirer


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:28 am 
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bromley wrote:
It seems to me that the drugs companies are setting the exam questions, selecting those to take the exam, and marking the exam. No wonder that they always report good results.


Very well put. That's how it seems to me, too. They choose who gets to play on their team, and voila! Their team wins.

Whenever I read what the drug companies report, I remember how one doc put it: "Statistics are like a bikini. What they show is intriguing, but what they hide is essential."

I'm not considering Tysabri for myself at this point, but I think people who want it should be able to get it... as long as they get all the facts, too.


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bromley wrote:
A year ago this month, Anita Louise Smith died from effects of Tysabri, a drug that was supposed to help her cope with multiple sclerosis. Within days, drugmakers yanked Tysabri off the market, devastating many people with multiple sclerosis who hoped the intravenous treatment would bring them relief.

Now, as makers of the drug prepare to seek approval to put Tysabri back on the market, some prominent neurologists are arguing that Smith should not have been taking it to begin with - because she did not have MS.

Maybe I missed something, but this is the first thing I've read speculating that Anita Louise Smith never had MS in the first place.


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Denver,

The extract you quote was not written by me - it's from the news article.

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Denver,

That's one of the arguments being presented in the lawsuit that Anita Smith's family has filed against Biogen/Elan and anyone else connected with the Tysabri trial. Don't know if the case will ever get to trial and would imagine that Biogen/Elan would like to settle this out of court. The last thing you want is some fancy lawyers exposing short falls in your company and how they operate.

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I love you, Harry, but you'd better be lining up your next crusade because when Tysabri does indeed prove to be twice as effective as any of the drugs that are currently available, Biogen is going to come out smelling like a rose.


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DenverCO wrote:
I love you, Harry, but you'd better be lining up your next crusade because when Tysabri does indeed prove to be twice as effective as any of the drugs that are currently available, Biogen is going to come out smelling like a rose.


You must have a crystal ball to predict that kind of efficacy :wink:

I hope you are right but there are a number of docs who simply don't agree with that kind of result....unless that is, the CRAB drugs are so over rated that it wouldn't take much to beat their numbers!!

Harry


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