When to stop

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Re: When to stop

Postby jimmylegs » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:44 pm

LOL omg wow i feel like i do nothing but elaborate all the time on here.

i'm too busy for the sarcastic 'let me google that for you' treatment right now, so here:
https://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-v ... -minerals/

and some related remedial forum reading here:
natural-approach-f27/topic18559-975.html
odd sx? no dx? check w/ dietitian
DRI=MINIMUM eg bit.ly/1vgQclQ
99% don't meet these. meds/lifestyle can affect levels
status can be low in ms & other cond'ns
'but my results are normal'. typical panels don't test all
deficits occur in 'normal' range
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Re: When to stop

Postby Scott1 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:30 am

Hi,

Whatever else might be happening you it seems like you are describing an response to an allergen. Does part of the house or the time of the day make a difference?

Presumably you're in a cool climate so the type of heating, the furnishings of the house, the type of bedding etc and other aspects of the property will be of interest to an allergist. It won't be just food. The puffy, dry eyes are meaningful to an allergist.

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Re: When to stop

Postby jimmylegs » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:28 am

Oxidative stress parameters and serum magnesium levels in patients with seasonal allergic conjunctivitis
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3 ... 15.1100634
"In studies investigating the relationship between dietary intake and allergic diseases, high serum magnesium (Mg) levels were found protective 11,12.
Mg, which has a role as a cofactor in more than 300 enzymatic reactions, is one of the most abundant cations in the intracellular environment and its deficiency is associated with a wide variety of ocular diseases through several mechanisms including oxidative stress 13. ..."

results excerpt:
Mg (mg/dl)
SAC patients 1.82 ± 0.12
controls 1.78 ± 0.13

"...The demonstration of the protective effect of antioxidant intake, including Mg, on allergic diseases11,12 supports the hypothesis that oxidative stress is related with allergies. ... we were unable to demonstrate a significant difference between the serum Mg levels of the patients with SAC and control subjects. Still, intracellular Mg deficiency may be present in patients with allergy and further studies with larger number of participants are necessary to conclude a relationship between SAC and Mg deficiency"

unsurprisingly everyone in the study had low normal mag. i like serum mag better in the 2.3-2.7 mg/dl range. or higher. was looking at arthritis lit the other day and some of the ppl in the best shape had serum mag above 3 mg/dl - well above 'normal'. i wouldn't personally characterise 1.78 mg/dl as 'healthy'. just 'not SAC' controls. good old cofactors.

Antioxidant intake and allergic disease in children
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 053.x/full
"...children who reported allergic symptoms from milk or avoided milk due to such symptoms (in total 285 children), were also excluded in the analyses of mineral intake. After exclusion, the inverse association observed between magnesium intake and asthma remained (ORadj, highest vs. lowest quartile, 0.58, 95% CI 0.35–0.98, P for trend 0.056). Moreover, the inverse associations observed in the lower quartiles between intake of magnesium and zinc in relation to allergy remained after the exclusion.To distinguish between IgE-mediated and non-IgE"

ah yes zinc, another d3 cofactor... as for cofactor depletion..

Vasospasm, its Role in the Pathogenesis of Diseases with Particular Reference to the Eye
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 6200000288

The Influence of Magnesium on Visual Field and Peripheral Vasospasm in Glaucoma
https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/310566
"magnesium improves the peripheral circulation and seems to have a beneficial effect on the visual field in glaucoma patients with vasospasm"
odd sx? no dx? check w/ dietitian
DRI=MINIMUM eg bit.ly/1vgQclQ
99% don't meet these. meds/lifestyle can affect levels
status can be low in ms & other cond'ns
'but my results are normal'. typical panels don't test all
deficits occur in 'normal' range
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