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Initial signs of MS? A scary time, any input is appreciated!

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:54 am
by RD1000
Bad anxiety the past little while, thanks for helping me get a hold on it!

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:36 am
by mose
Rob, wait for your bloodwork to come back. To me, the first suspect would be diet-based nutritional deficiencies(b12 and whatnot). From my experience, I have seen vegetarianism done 'wrong' more times than I can remember.

So, please, relax, wait for the bloodwork, discuss it with your doctor and take it from there. Also, please refrain from the internet until then as you will only make yourself worse while driving yourself crazy.

Nothing you've stated as symptoms screams 'MS' to me.

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:33 am
by Algis
I can only agree with mose ... Eat everything in balance. This 'veg fashion' is only doing bad for the human body.

No any B12 cap will ever replace a beef steak; whether we like or not...

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:06 am
by RD1000
You're right, thanks!

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:33 am
by shye
sounds like B12/folic acid deficiency to me--which of course if goes on for years, could end up as MS and a lot of other probs.
How long have you been vegetarian? Get yourself to a wholistic nutritionist for some guidance on your diet--if you are vegetarian you probably need some help in finding out what other deficiencies you might have.
The sub-lingual tabs of B12 don't always work--I have to get the shots--if get shots, try for methylcobalamin form of B12 (this is form the cyano converts to in body in order to be used by the nerves).
And if you do take the sub lingual, make sure you are using the methylcobalamin form. And take a folic acid along with the B12.

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:00 pm
by RD1000
Thanks Shye,

I have been vegetarian for about a year and 2 months, I still eat fish occasionally. We eat pretty well, we're not lazy vegetarians, but I can see the B12 being a possibility. I have been taking 1000 UI of it every day for about the past week and a half, but I'm not sure how well that stuff is absorbed into the bloodstream. It's been during this time that the majority of symptoms have flared up, last night my hands/arms were burning quite a bit but eventually subsided (could have been entirely self-inflicted from over thinking)

I'm not sure about the differences in B12 supplements, I just have a generic over the counter brand, I'll look into the folic acid as well.

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:50 pm
by shye
robdesignguy
maybe you are reacting to the B12--ie, it could be starting to work on nerves that need it-do be sure to take the folic acid as well.

A generic over the counter would be cyanocobalamin--as I said the much better one is methylcobalamin.

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:55 pm
by RD1000
Thanks again Shye.

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:50 pm
by Slumby
shye wrote:methylcobalamin form. And take a folic acid along with the B12.
Thank you for this advice, Shye. I'm getting some this right away.

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:50 am
by L
Hello Rob

None of this sounds familiar to me. I never experienced vertigo, although I think that some people with MS do, and I have never had any localised numbness.

I'm a vegetarian too. This makes things slightly easier for me because avoiding all saturated fat eases the stiffness in my legs somewhat and meat and dairy, generally speaking, are loaded with the stuff.

I'm not really too familiar with MS symptoms that I myself don't have but I'd guess that it isn't MS in your case.

I'm always droning on about vitamin D3 but I feel that I ought to mention it.

Very high doses (10,000 iU+) have been shown to be effective in combating MS, in that they make the likelihood of a relapse slimmer, an MS event slimmer. It also protects you against many other maladies so you do yourself a lot of good besides safeguarding against the possibility of MS.

http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuseact ... ageid/1334

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:13 am
by RD1000
Thank you L, I sincerely appreciate your feedback

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:59 am
by mose
That sounds like classic anxiety to me, having experienced it numerous times. I had even been hospitalized overnight due to a rather devastating panic attack. It's amazing what your mind can make your body feel.

Please, do try to relax and do try to avoid the internet. You will feel like you have everything in the world. The odds are very good that there is nothing really wrong with you.

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:52 am
by RD1000
Thanks Mose,