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more Helminthic worms for Lyon

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:50 am
by scorpion
It looks like there have been some positive outcomes so far. I thought it was intersting that the article stated that sometimes the worms can actually make certain disorders worse in some people.


http://www.empowher.com/multiple-sclero ... ne-disease

Re: more Helminthic worms for Lyon

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:45 pm
by Lyon
scorpion wrote:I thought it was interesting that the article stated that sometimes the worms can actually make certain disorders worse in some people.
Not to make excuses for my little pets but I think it's important to keep in mind that, over and above the recent consideration of using helminths as a treatment for inflammatory diseases, the underlying theory is that prior to the 20th century the inhabitants of the places we now consider the "developed" world were invariably exposed to helminth infections in the "formative" years prior to puberty and indeed those populations rarely/never experienced MS. Theoretically because the early exposure "trained" their immune systems to correctly behave for life.

I'm not 100% sure what I'm trying to point out above the idea that, if true, Mother Nature never intended MS to be a human condition and adding helminths after adulthood and after the onset of disease might very well prove to be too little, too late in the same way that it's said that prior to puberty is the perfect time to learn languages (etc..) and after that point, although you can still learn, the point of maximum effectiveness has already passed.

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:20 pm
by concerned
This is why I've always tried to ignore even the most basic hygienic considerations of the first world. :D 8) :D 8)

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:27 pm
by Lyon
concerned wrote:This is why I've always tried to ignore even the most basic hygienic considerations of the first world. :D 8) :D 8)
I was going to mention earlier that we should pal around sometime, but I'm not so sure now 8)

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:30 pm
by concerned
:lol: :lol:

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:00 pm
by rainer
The hygiene hypothesis reminded me of this recent article (though an old topic).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/ ... infections

Following the hypothesis that auto-immune disorders are the fault of living in a society with too few germs, is the end of antibiotics a positive for MS?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:35 pm
by scorpion
I was wondering the same thing rainer. Will we have to trade one for another?