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Progressive MS

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:27 am
by LR1234
Hi

Just wondering has anyone with progressive MS managed to stop progressing and/or reversed damage?

You hear of MS "burning itself out" and I wonder if this is ever really true.

(I know Terry Wahls has but I wonder if she truly had MS)

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:31 pm
by LR1234
not looking hopeful then:(

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:28 am
by KateCW
I was also hoping to hear something positive. I think it is hard to know if you have stabilized or not. maybe the best we can hope for is slowing down? I have been taking LDN for over a year and am still getting worse.A really long plateau period would be nice too.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:53 am
by chrishasms
Talk your Doctor into 3g of roids a month...they may do it once every 2, but it works in some people.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:19 pm
by KateCW
Thanks Chris.y family doc lets me do pulse therapy 3 times per year (oral Pred-1250 mg every 2nd day for 10 days). I had read that it can help progressive MS. He is also the one who suggested LDN to me and prescribed me compounded 4-AP since the ext release is not yet approved here in Canada. My neuro is pleasant enough but wont do a thing that isn't studied and standard practice with all MS docs. My family doc seems to understand that an untreatable disease requires a little innovation and unconventional therapies.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:13 pm
by elyse_peace
hi all -
i started taking ldn (4.5 mg) at my doctor's suggestion. when i saw no difference in my symptoms, I continued taking it, because it is supposed to stop progression. i have progressed much since i started taking it, three years ago. i had stopped taking it since it didn't end my progression. when i told my doc he had me go back on it. he said it works with the immune system.
do not be discouraged by my story. remember, we are each different. continue to keep hope in your bag of fighting tools.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:53 pm
by Bender
FNORD!

sorry just had to add that, hadn't noticed the avi before.

Re: Progressive MS

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:01 pm
by zen2010
LR1234 wrote:Hi

Just wondering has anyone with progressive MS managed to stop progressing and/or reversed damage?

You hear of MS "burning itself out" and I wonder if this is ever really true.

(I know Terry Wahls has but I wonder if she truly had MS)
Hi LR,

I did stop my PMS by fixing my CCSVI. However, we are all different...

old monoclonal reconsidered

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:07 am
by secondopinion
Very interesting report. I guess in case of younger patients and early use the results would be even much better.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/712607
IMHO one reason not to follow up with this is, that the manufacturer dont want to compete with his own more expensive monoclonals.
It´s sorry to say but If somebody has EDSS 6 or more, it may be difficult to imagine how something in this world can repair the brain destruction already done. However, it we mix in clinical trials patients with EDSS let say 2 and 5,5, old and young and put everything together it is expected that only marginal effect, if any can be seen in clinical trials.
Unfortunately looks like the situation is similar to cancer trials, where the most potent drugs will be used first for untreatable, metastatic cases and it takes 10 to 20 years before they will be moved to the position of first-line treatment.
Like in case of taxans for breast cancer. It is still not the standard first-line combination treatment, even if we know now well that in case of first-line treatment the 5 years relapse rate will be 2 times less.

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:41 am
by Algis
If somebody has EDSS 6 or more, it may be difficult to imagine how something in this world can repair the brain destruction already done.
Most encouraging; thanks :? 8O :P :lol:

Re: Progressive MS

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:49 am
by NHE
Algis wrote:
If somebody has EDSS 6 or more, it may be difficult to imagine how something in this world can repair the brain destruction already done.
Most encouraging; thanks :? 8O :P :lol:
It would be good to keep in mind what Dr. Norman Doidge discusses in his book "The Brain that Changes Itself". In effect, the brain can heal through neuroplasticity, but it often does take a great deal of work. :idea:

http://www.thisisms.com/ftopicp-35000.html#35000

NHE

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:10 am
by KateCW
My damage is all spinal cord, no brain lesions. I am not hopeful that damage like mine (not sure of my EDSS-7.5?) can be healed, but would like to stop it. /I may travel to IMSMP in New York city for the intrathecal methotrexate treatment. Always interested in hearing from others who have tried this.

Glimmer of hope for PPMS

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:57 pm
by Smilingface
I have taken fingoliomod for over a year now and honestly feel it has set the clock back on my progression. I think my EDSS was 4.0 when I started in the trial, it maybe the same now but my testing is showing more strength. I certainly feel better. Hopefully, there are others like me!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:09 am
by Filmmaker
I have read in a study about SPMS that the worst damage was done in the first five years but that afterwards, the impact starts to lessen...
http://www.disabled-world.com/health/au ... lapses.php
Is that true? if you've had SPMS for five years and more, did you feel that?

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:27 am
by Filmmaker
I also found this thread:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... .google.ca

Considering that the average begining of unoticed MS sx are around 15 years old, the progressive phase should start in the 30's... hum... so still few years to go I guess..