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My friend , Mary, likely has MS. All her symptoms were a dead ringer for MS, Got progressively worse over a two month period, leaving her barely able to walk, slurring of speech, blind one eye, trouble thinking, etc etc. MRI showed white spots consistent with MS but the Radiologist was unable to say MS for certain for whatever reason.

At my suggestion she tried a method I have found which stimulates the immune system much more effectively than any known method, and my evidence on it indicated it puts autoimmune disease into remission perhaps by also stimulating the immune suppressor cells, although it may too make thus better regulating the immune system, thus stopping it from attacking itself. Within several days of trying this virtually free simple "home remedy" she was in complete remission and had regained a lot of what she had lost. , no speech problem, walking fine, etc.

The method is to simulate' the fetus' most common hand position in the womb, more on that in a moment.

MS is of course an autoimmune disease. I have an autoimmune disease of the colon and stomach. It is completely put into remission by doing the above and in addition avoiding certain triggers which would not have been present in our past millions of years when the benefit was formed by creating a gene in the fetus from having the hand or hands up in one of the most common fetal hand positions.

A man from South Africa had the autoimmune disease ulcerative colitis, severe, non stop for 20 years. He tried the same method and was in complete remission in several days. I can post his emails to me. A woman with the autoimmune disease rheumatoid arthritis tried a similar method half the time-part time and got a partial remission a few days.

One could achieve this fetal hand duplication by holding one hand up like the photos of a fetus, , i.e. at the level of the upper chest or clavicle or shoulder, held reasonably still, nothing in the hand, and if lying down to place the hand on the upper chest while on one's back, but with the fingers curledinto a loose fist , or by holding the thumb in the mouth or as it turns out, by placing the fingertip in the ear touching the inner wall where an ear plug for noise would be placed, working it can be assumed because the fetus explored his ear to. But luckily since all those methods would be so tedious, , by placing part of an organic cotton ball in ones ear, the size of a small marble, to simulate the feel of one's fingertip so larger than the fingertip because cotton isnt as dense as a fingertip, but, in between a marble and your fingertip is how I might describe the size,, like a small marble, rolled into a ball, just make it give the same feeling as your fingertip not too small so it doesnt feel substantial and not so big it is uncomfortable or cant be GENTLY tapped in to touch the inner wall, , tapping it in gently until it stops going in any further, because it is touching that inner wall next to the ear canal where an earplug for noise is placed.

We all checked it often to make sure it hadnt worked itself away from that inner wall as it tends to do, especially when you move around and when you roll over on your ear during sleep.

I personally need to also include the above stated lifestyle changes to avoid certain man made influences, but Mary with the presumed MS did not have to take any such precautions to get her remission, so I can describe them later if someone here needs that for a full remission, except I can state for sure, and she did follow this, that this will not work when too near the certain electronics due to too much manmade radiation. 1. Being within Id say 17 feet of a flat screened tv, and that includes being that near the flat screened tv in the adjoining apartments when they have it on, unforetunately. 2. Being within four or five feet of a non flat screened tv, with any part of one's body , including the feet or legs, 3. Being within 2 or 3 of a cell phone. 4. Being within 15 plus feet of any computer equipment, including modem, computer and monitor. 5 Being within five feet of the modern radio I have. , maybe more for some types. 6.A few apartments or houses will be too close to a power line that run along the street , if they are super near to you, 7. About half the modern cars Ive been make this method ineffective while sitting in the at least the front seat, due to the computer chips in the car.

Edit:I forgot to add, there are 3 foods that are the most deranging to the immune system that make an autoimmune disease much worse, and Mary and I eliminated them from our diet. Milk( but cheese was ok), , any food cooked in a microwave, and any pure protein powder drink with the protein detached from the original food that and water being the only other ingredient, I dont know if the drinks or bars which also include other ingredients have the same effect, Oatmeal should also be avoided. There are a few others I had to avoid but they are more minor. She did not have to.

Also none of us wore any rings or watches, which detract from the result I can explain why, as would any immunosuppressive drugs , which would probably make it totally ineffective in MS . A pharmacist told me the other day that all the MS drugs are immune suppressive, that is how they work he said. Unforetunately . In addition this wont work if anything else is worn in the other ear. Place the organic cotton in only one ear, either ear, you can switch ears if you like. I know that smoking reduces the degree of immune stimulation this causes, but whether or not that would negate the elimination of an autoimmune disease I am not sure of, best to test it first while not smoking

I learned the hard way that todays conventional cotton balls are all genetically modified and will not work at all, only ORGANIC cotton balls will now work. I have only tried one brand so get that one, its called Organic Essentials, sold at many health food markets or CVS pharmacies or ordered on the internet, cost maybe 3 dollars. IF you want to try it for free, I will send you a couple of them. It may turn out that other brands or organic cotton balls work just as well.

All of us treated 24 hours a day except for the woman who used similar part time with partial remission of her rheumatoid arthritis and I should warn that since this method increases all functions of the body beneficially, that includes , I have found, the circulation, thus causing a greater effect to a small degree of any drug one is taking, I have found, which would risk overdose if one tries this at the same time as taking a drug which is already close to being at the toxic level. including acetaminophen, brand name tylenol. That is the only what one might call a side effect seen even though a beneficial one.

In addition, this method has healing and improved functioning ability for seemingly all parts of the body way beyond any other known method, that is what it obviously has evolved to do in the fetus, to help him thrive and so recovery after remission would be enhanced even for damage that has long since stopped healing, I have found for so many old injuries of mine, including tendons, brain, and vocal cords.

The immune stimulation is so powerful that it cures a cold (in the more than ten people who tried it) in an hour or two, same for influenza in the two people who tried it for that, me many times and has many other uses just as spectacular.

I was able to find this method because I have a unique factor in my blood that causes my muscles to contract whenever my immunity is being stimulated by anything, to the same degree as the degree of stimulation.

Finally Im not a doctor so one should check with his physician regarding trying this. I am not proposing one should stop any prescribed meds

Steve Lord, Santa Barbara, California

Emails from the South African man who put his ulcerative colitis into remission in several days using this method

email:

speedy vussi <hotnot44@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: Hello Steve

I have read an article written by you about the fetal cure

http://www.thefetalcure.com/#top

Is this some sort of joke or is it real?.

Where did you learn about this technique if it is indeed not a hoax?

Should I place a piece of cotton wool in both ears or just one ear?

I have been suffering for colitis for more than 20 years and I am prepared
to
try anything that will free me of this dreaded disease.


Second Email.

speedy vussi <hotnot44@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: Hello Steve

I did the fetal cure last night and the results were amazing. I was
suffering a
severe flareup with my colitis during the last few weeks. I was having
about 20
bowel movements of watery and bloody stools.

I placed a cotton ball in my right ear and then sat in the dark for about
an
hour. I then went to bed with the cotton ball still intact in my ear. I
got up
this morning and changed the cotton ball and then took a shower with it.

I only had one bowel movement today. There was no blood in my stools My
stools
had a better formation though still watery. My abdominal and back pains
were
gone. Yes colitis is a autoimmune disease. I would appreciate it if you
could
let me know what to avoid with colitis.

I would the address of your webside by searching google for a cure for
colitis.
Someone placed the address of your website on the following message board

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/isribd/messages/1

P.S : Can you tell me how you came to know about this wonderful cure?

Regards

Third Email

speedy vussi <hotnot44@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Hello Steve

Day 3 report.

All my symptoms of colitis have disappeared except that my stool formation
is
still not normal. I have noticed that my hayfever/rhinitis has completely
vanished. I have been a hayfever sufferer as long as I was suffering from
colitis. I will meet my mother in law on Saturday and I will ask her what
type
of arthritis she has.

P.S : Can I post your website on other IBD message boards. I have suffered
for
such a long time and I really feel sorry for others who have been
suffering
from this disease. Not everyone will try this cure but there must be other
desperate people like me who are willing to give it a try

Regards


Forth email:

speedy vussi <hotnot44@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Hello Steve

Sorry that I was not in contact with you during the last few days. I was
feeling so well that I decided to take a little vacation into the
mountains. I
would have written to you but unfortunately I did not have access to the
internet.

I have been literally pigging myself during the last few days. I was
making up
for all the good foods I denied myself for years. Foods that irritated my
colitis. I can eat anything that my heart desires now

I am still using the cotton ball. My stools are getting more formed by the
day.
I have an enormous amount of energy. Another thing that I noticed is that
I
sleep much more better with the cotton ball and I am not waking up very
tired
like I previously did.

Regards

Steve Lord

:I forgot to add, there are 3 foods that are the most deranging to the immune system that make an autoimmune disease much worse, and Mary and I eliminated them from our diet. Milk, any food cooked in a microwave, and any pure protein powder drink with the protein detached from the original food that and water being the only other ingredient, I dont know if the drinks or bars which also include other ingredients have the same effect, Oatmeal should also be avoided. There are a few others I had to avoid but they are more minor. She did not have to.

Genetically modified food also nails me. Anyone notice that? I think with MS its hard to know which input, which food is causing any symptom increase but with my autoimmune disease I kknow within seconds, like food because my stomach is affected by the autoimmune problem. I dont think anyone can be symtom free if they drink milk or eat food out of a microwave, the effect is so extreme on deranging the immune system. In fact there is a study, maybe two of them, cant remember , that the people who drink more milk get more MS. And of course there is a govt warning aginst giving cows milk to a child under one due to it causing juvenile diabetes.

Steve Lord

Is there anyone here who does NOT take an immune suppressive MS drug or do all people with MS take one?

Steve Lord

my wife does not take any immune suppressive MS drug

DougL wrote:my wife does not take any immune suppressive MS drug

Thanks, Dougl, maybe see if she wants to try this method, Do you live in a house that would therefore not have neighbors apartment flat screened tv sets possibly corrupting this method?

Steve Lord

And by the way Dougl, what is your honest impression when you read what I posted, Id be curious as to how people react to this method. No need to be polite. Thanks.

stevelord wrote:And by the way Dougl, what is your honest impression when you read what I posted, Id be curious as to how people react to this method. No need to be polite. Thanks.

The website you reference is fictional. There is no website registered with that domain name. A search of the yahoo message board revealed no mention of it contrary to your post. Your thesis that you can cure MS by putting cotton in your ear is highly implausible. This is the danger inherent in a relapse/remitting condition such as MS. One could do anything and if there is improvement that is merely coincidental with the action taken, then it is easy to falsely believe that the improvement is due to the action when it is more likely the natural course of the relapse/remitting disease. I was symptom free for 8 years after my first and attack and did nothing. Should I therefore believe that doing nothing cures MS or is responsible for the remission?

My friend the moderator, Firstly I didnt rreference my old website, Speedi did, thats where he read about it I guess, he read it in 2004 I guess it was, I no longer have it, but it can be read at a Doctors website who has my paper on his website , are we allowed to post the name, he is a naturopath named Dr Ralph WIlson, I can post his websote if its ok, It descibes forty things in forty people this method has been tried on, all with unprecedented success.

Also please note that it not onlly turned Mary's probably MS autoimmune disease around on a dime, it does the same for me and obvioiusly for the South African whose emails I posted. I can post all the things it has had success in treating or curing if anyone is interested.; And why would the idea that duplicating an aspect of the fetal experience be so unbelievable that it may help us now. Do not humans evolve benefits to their environmenetal conditions, like Vitamin D to sunlight. And is it not many peoples experience that the full fetal position is comforting and there is a website devoted to adults sucking their thumb for health and comfort. My post simply desribes a less tedious way of duplicating the fetal experience.It also describes the healing ability of merely holding the hands up near the upper chest, which is commonly used in such proven therapies as tai chi and qi gong.

You judge it before anyone tried it, how would any new method ever be put in the public domain if people judge it before trying it? Would you have said the same 100 years ago if someone told you a mold blew through a gentlemans open window and and he claimed it was the most important medical discovery in the history of medicine? Also known as penicillin.

Steve Lord

stevelord wrote:You judge it before anyone tried it, how would any new method ever be put in the public domain if people judge it before trying it? Would you have said the same 100 years ago if someone told you a mold blew through a gentlemans open window and and he claimed it was the most important medical discovery in the history of medicine? Also known as penicillin.

If someone lacks enough intelligence to begin with, the placebo effect (what you are talking about) can even kill this person.

CuriousRobot wrote:

stevelord wrote:You judge it before anyone tried it, how would any new method ever be put in the public domain if people judge it before trying it? Would you have said the same 100 years ago if someone told you a mold blew through a gentlemans open window and and he claimed it was the most important medical discovery in the history of medicine? Also known as penicillin.

If someone lacks enough intelligence to begin with, the placebo effect (what you are talking about) can even kill this person.

Really? I read a study once on an antiviral for the common cold. It beat the placebo effect by one day in how long it took to cure the cold, reducing the time from nine days to six days, the placebo effect knocked off two days, from nine to seven days in the control group. The method I am proposing cures a cold consistent in over ten people in one to two HOURS. This is totally beyond the placebo effect and please note none of them thought it would work, and note the South African wondering if it was some kind of joke before he tried it. Mary herself fought me and fought me telling me it couldnt work. She found out differently.

Steve Lord

stevelord wrote:And is it not many peoples experience that the full fetal position is comforting and there is a website devoted to adults sucking their thumb for health and comfort.

Great. A whole website devoted to adult thumb sucking. Just what the world needs. Is it run by an orthodontist?

stevelord wrote:And by the way Dougl, what is your honest impression when you read what I posted, Id be curious as to how people react to this method. No need to be polite. Thanks.

I am always honest and always polite.

sorry, I did not read your posts; only the last one where you asked the question about drugs.

normally, when people posts long essays on TIMS , i tend to not read them except for ones by Dr S. or other well established members. no disrespect to you or anyone - this is the internet afterall and I can be anything on the internet. stick around for a few months, get to know us and then i would be happy to read your opinon.

Dr Ralph WIlson is a naturoathic physician with a practice in Washington DC. His website is www.naturalworldhealing.com

My essay giving full details on this method appears on his website . Scroll down the first page to essays link on the left, then go to thefetalcure essay and that is mine. It begins with an introduction by Dr. Wilson. I dont necessarily agre with his reasoning as to why it works though. Following that are some other emails of people who tried it. Here is the first portion, Dr Wilson speaking at first:

"Basically, it is done by putting a piece of pure non-GMO cotton ball in the ear; it stimulates deep healing pathways and upregulates the parasympathetic nervous system. This all makes sense if you know the functions of the Autonomic Nervous System and its intricate interactions with the world around it. Steve Lord has happened upon a very important discovery. [Update -- the hand position alone without organic cotton also brings results.]

Read on--
Steve Lord shows us how to activate what seems to be a
Primal Kinesthetic "Reset Button" experience
that activates our innate healing process.

Note, August 2012: Steve Lord recently sent this update --

I've launched another campaign to get my info into the public eye.

Here are some posts from people I got to try the holding one hand in the fetus most common hand position, up near the chin or clavicle , holding the hand reasonably still, nothing in the hand, which causes the same effect as putting your finger in your ear, (or organic cotton), or putting the thumb in the mouth, which are also common fetal hand positions.

Again its absolutely necessary to do so away from electronic radiation, including the flat screened tv in an adjoining apartment whose radiation blocks the effect up to 17 feet, close enough to you in some apartments. and smoking and immune suppressing drugs reduce the effect. Remember it is the effect of this unique factor in my blood that allows me to know what and by how much my immunity is being stimulated by anything, because it causes my muscles to contract in the same degree as the degree of immune stimulation.

You can rest your elbow on something while doing this. Note that some positions in tai chi, qi gong , falun gong, and even some yoga positions incorporate positions with the hands up (its not necessary to use both hands, one is fine)_ but they make the mistake that very much reduces their effect of not keeping the hand still or not being in the ideal position enough although holding the hand anywhere above the waist if held still causes SOME immune and other healing systems stimulation. .

The last four people who tried this reported complete cure of their colds, even bad ones which caused two of them a trip to the Doctor , in an hour or less. One was a neighbor who was so skeptical I almost had to beat her over the head to get her to try it.

Here are some examples of people using this method:

1) A woman from Alaska tried this and this is the message she sent me about it.

Hi! I was suffering from a severe sore throat and chest cold thing that was well into its second week and still going strong when I tried your suggestion. I had not had any sickness in about five years. I immediately- with no winding down or slow reduction of the glaring symptoms- was relieved just boom-GONE! Not a sputter or putter thereafter, and no more 103 fever, I just assumed the position, and in less than 10 minutes-I was completely symptom free. Stunning! Thank you very much!"

2) "...................I gave my friend the instructions, although he claimed to have some doubt as to the likelihood that it could work for him-he's 6'4 and 260lbs- he followed them to a tee, and, not surprisingly, he no longer has the deep chest cold and nasty flu-like symptoms-including vomiting, that for several days he was experiencing. He was quite shocked. He said that in about an hour, the congestion and waves of cramping in his gut stopped-cold. He now has no doubt that this works."

3) "Steve, you know how you always stipulate that the ‘fetal cure’ won’t work for smokers. Therefore, I never tried it. But I did read the report below and the one you sent along a day or two earlier and I remembered that you recommend the technique for depression as well. So I thot if it works for depression, then why not angst? No harm in trying it whether I smoke or not. So I did it for something close to ten minutes yesterday.

I had already gone through one of those angst bouts earlier and had turned the corner on it which made it difficult to know if subsequent improvement was attributable to the technique or not. Whatever the case, feelings of tension and stress lifted further and results improved dramatically for a time although the stress did return later in the day.

But this improvement wasn’t the real story. I have a sinus condition, something I have had off and on for many yrs and very persistently for the last four or five. I have tried antibiotics from time to time and they do lessen it but it always comes back. It’s just something I have learned to live with and don’t think about most times. When I decided to do the exercise, I wasn’t even thinking about the condition and didn’t until I noticed that my sinuses were draining. This started to occur within minutes of doing the exercise. Didn’t pay it any attention at first but when my nose started to ‘run’ and the sinus passages actually cleared I couldn’t deny the change any longer. So far, there has been no reversal of the improvement and when I woke up this morning I was still totally clear. I have since experienced more drainage but it is much lighter and sinus passages remain unblocked. This is remarkable." and the same person says: "I cant say yet for sure if it reduces anxiety any better than other techniques such as deep breathing. I think it does but more experimentation is reqd. No question about the sinus condition though. While the symptoms did return slightly yesterday, they were greatly reduced and further practice with the position last night had the same positive effect as the first time. I woke up this morning with clear sinuses."

4) " Also, about being near electronic devices, that is very true. My body is very sensitive to such things, and many other things many people are not aware of the effects these have on their bodies, and i can usually tell right away what the problem is."

Steve Lord