Re: Some Interesting Connections
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:37 pm
Thank you for the glowing endorsement,
I did actually read your paper before commenting, but couldn't be bothered tracking it any further because they always end up in a beaurocratic blind alley.
Not really much of a paper with only 7 references linked to support the assumptions.
Just on the Aluminium Adjuvants there,
How exactly did they come to their conclusion on that one?
- They rubbished two papers which suggested that there may be a problem with using aluminium as an adjuvant and used the GFDA recomendations as their pro argument to say it's safe, hardly watertight by any means.
Reading into the FDA safety allowance for ingestion of Aluminium and corrolating that to an amount directly injected into the blood stream, how is this relevant?
Any time food is ingested the immune system goes into overdrive, digestion is one of the riskiest functions as we need to absorb large nutrient molecules but at the same time we need to keep toxins & pathogens out, or at the very least deal with them promptly, so it's obvious that ingested aluminium will be dealt with in a completely different manner to injected aluminium.
Just for those who may not be aware of what an Adjuvant is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjuvant
Basically the aluminium acts as an irritant at the injection site to increase physiological damage, that the body will assume is caused by the minute quantity of antigen presented, otherwise without the adjuvant the inate immune system would simply clean up the injected mess and no antibodies would be created.
While where on the topic it might be a good idea maybe for the WHO & FDA to maybe consider the potential links in using nut oils & shellfish proteins as carriers in vaccines and explain the increasing rates of allergies to these food products in children these days, it seems that there is little evidence to show that the vaccines actually do what their supposed to and a lot of circumstantial evidence to suggest they are doing harm in other areas.
Just to clarify my position,
Yes I am a vaccination skeptic, I do agree the process of vaccination has helped us to increase quality of life immensly over the last 100 years, but I think we have passed the point of maximum benefit now and the focus of vaccinations on less deadly diseases has balanced the scales where vaccination risks far outweigh any benefits that may be recieved.
I did actually read your paper before commenting, but couldn't be bothered tracking it any further because they always end up in a beaurocratic blind alley.
Not really much of a paper with only 7 references linked to support the assumptions.
Just on the Aluminium Adjuvants there,
How exactly did they come to their conclusion on that one?
- They rubbished two papers which suggested that there may be a problem with using aluminium as an adjuvant and used the GFDA recomendations as their pro argument to say it's safe, hardly watertight by any means.
Reading into the FDA safety allowance for ingestion of Aluminium and corrolating that to an amount directly injected into the blood stream, how is this relevant?
Any time food is ingested the immune system goes into overdrive, digestion is one of the riskiest functions as we need to absorb large nutrient molecules but at the same time we need to keep toxins & pathogens out, or at the very least deal with them promptly, so it's obvious that ingested aluminium will be dealt with in a completely different manner to injected aluminium.
Just for those who may not be aware of what an Adjuvant is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjuvant
Basically the aluminium acts as an irritant at the injection site to increase physiological damage, that the body will assume is caused by the minute quantity of antigen presented, otherwise without the adjuvant the inate immune system would simply clean up the injected mess and no antibodies would be created.
While where on the topic it might be a good idea maybe for the WHO & FDA to maybe consider the potential links in using nut oils & shellfish proteins as carriers in vaccines and explain the increasing rates of allergies to these food products in children these days, it seems that there is little evidence to show that the vaccines actually do what their supposed to and a lot of circumstantial evidence to suggest they are doing harm in other areas.
Just to clarify my position,
Yes I am a vaccination skeptic, I do agree the process of vaccination has helped us to increase quality of life immensly over the last 100 years, but I think we have passed the point of maximum benefit now and the focus of vaccinations on less deadly diseases has balanced the scales where vaccination risks far outweigh any benefits that may be recieved.