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CONGRATULATIONS ART!

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:50 pm
by Lyon
By the way, congratulations Art!

This from the Sept. 2007 "Health Informatics Journal" article "Assessing the quality of websites providing information on multiple sclerosis: evaluating tools and comparing sites"
IQ Tool
One quarter of the websites scored zero according to the IQ Tool because they either did
not disclose authorship or did not provide contact details for the author. No website scored
perfect marks of 100, but two websites, Boston Cure and All About Multiple Sclerosis,
were just one ‘yes’ response short, with both only failing to score top marks because one
of the questions, about the security of personal information, was not applicable. The rest
of the scores ranged from 40.2 to 88.4 per cent.
Bob

Re: CONGRATULATIONS ART!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:36 am
by NHE
Hi Lyon,
I can't seem to get to the full paper from the abstract but it would be great if you could let us all know how ThisIsMS faired if it was included in the analysis.

Thanks, NHE

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:28 am
by Lyon
Hi NHE,
I tried to copy and paste the graph of their results, but it's a pdf file and the format wouldn't transfer correctly.

I didn't see "thisisms" mentioned at all, not even among the sites considered.

When you look at the list of references the authors used, thisisms wasn't among them, and without inferring any negativity towards thisisms, it seems there might be good reason. The foremost reason for thisisms not even being a consideration (it seems to me) probably regards membership in thisisms not really booming until the last year or so, it seems that the real work in this study was done before then.

Additionally, when you look at the latter part of the references, it seems they've listed the websites which were among the considerations of the authors. I'm not familiar with all those sites but I got the idea they were looking for sites which specifically post medically accepted information about MS.

It seems the whole idea of thisisms is that most members are already familiar with the "medically accepted" opinions and use the thisisms site to determine whether they agree with the medically accepted opinions and/or to discuss alternative outlooks. I don't think anyone here WANTS the medically accepted theories posted on this site so maybe thisisms will never be a consideration for this type of study.

I'm at work and admittedly don't have my reading glasses, I don't see thisisms listed anywhere below but please correct me if I'm wrong.
Bob
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:48 am
by jimmylegs
nope thisisms isn't in there, but i have a full text pdf copy if anyone wants one. and yea i'd say it's definitely missing some interesting sites but i haven't read it to look at how they scoped the resources being considered.

i also took a screen shot of the table but i forgot you need a URL for adding images to these posts so never mind :)

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:08 am
by Lyon
jimmylegs wrote: i also took a screen shot of the table but i forgot you need a URL for adding images to these posts so never mind :)
Hi jimmy, you should teach me how to do screen shots.

If you have the time you could add that screen shot to your photobucket site so that it has a url :wink: I saw the "Greek Goddess" pic, so I know you can do it.

Bob

Re: CONGRATULATIONS ART!

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:01 pm
by NHE
Lyon wrote:I tried to copy and paste the graph of their results, but it's a pdf file and the format wouldn't transfer correctly.
In my version of Adobe Acrobat, I hold down the text select tool button which brings up other options and then select the 'Graphics Select Tool'. Next, drag a graphics select box around the image in the pdf. Right click on it and choose copy.

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As an alternative, use 'Alt+Print Screen' to copy the entire window on a windows system. This copies an image of the window to the clipboard which can then be pasted into an image editing application such as Photoshop, Gimp, PaintShopPro, or whatever and edited. Saving the file in the gif format (or as a 16 color png file if the image is fairly plain) will help to reduce the size compared to a jpg file and will facilitate transfers. Note, if you want the whole desktop and not just the current window then just use 'Print Screen' by itself.

NHE

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:27 pm
by jimmylegs
lol lyon i so do not remember how i put the greek goddess up. will have to revisit the post and check out the url.

ya what nhe describes for non-acrobat scenarios (alt-printscreen) is how i screenshot. i hit print screen and then ctrl-v it into paint - i'm usually on a pretty low-tech machine these days. then you can play with it to resize, recentre, and trim as needed. then yes save as jpg if/when reduced file size is best.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:37 pm
by jimmylegs
re img urls: oooooooooh i let that site's dns registration lapse a long time ago. no more greek goddess, so sad. suppose i could blog the screen shot but that whole idea smacks of effort. think i'll stick with the lazy theme for this week :)

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:02 pm
by Lyon
Yeah, Thanks a lot for the help guys :evil:

That was harder than crap and the ordeal probably scarred me for life!

NHE must have the nice version of acrobat because I had to sluff my way through all those steps which should have required a college degree.
Bob

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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:02 pm
by viper498
Wow.... Thisisms should have been at the top of this list, and yet it isn't even on it. Is this ranking sponsored by Big Pharma? ;-)

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:28 am
by Lyon
Good question Brock, I hadn't thought to look.

They were looking for easily available stockpiles of "medically accepted" information and thisisms seems to be a place for people to discuss ALL of the options.
Bob
Acknowledgements
This work was supported by a Social Sciences and Humanities Research Grant and Canada Research Chairs Program Grant to the first author.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:54 am
by jimmylegs
righty-o then, who's writing the letter to the editor in response?

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:59 am
by Lyon
jimmylegs wrote:righty-o then, who's writing the letter to the editor in response?
:oops: But I don't see this as a slight to thisisms.

Their study was titled "Assessing the quality of websites providing information on multiple sclerosis" and I'm not sure thisisms was intended to "provide" information, but instead provides a forum to discuss MS.

What they were looking for were places which provided "medically accepted" information about MS. I think you have to admit that not only isn't there a stockpile of medically accepted MS information on this site (nor was it ever intended), but very people at this site follow the "straight and narrow".

I'm not sure what there is to complain to the editor about...that thisisms wasn't mentioned in a study which wasn't looking for this type of website?

Bob

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:54 pm
by jimmylegs
hmm, personally i viewed a letter to the editor as an opportunity to elaborate, but if it would automatically be seen as something negative, maybe not.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:02 pm
by Lyon
Hi jimmy, I jumped to the conclusion that it would be kind of negative. I don't mean to put words in the mouths of the people involved in the study and it would be interesting to hear their response.
Bob