Good morning, Robin!
(No comments please Deb!
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Oh, you break my heart!
You KNOW I had the perfect come-back line! Ok.........I'll be nice.
However I also feel that over the last few years my ability to perform complex mental tasks has been reduced. In addition I find it more difficult to concentrate on a task than I used to.
Actually, this is going to sound like a come-back line, but it truly isn't. I know what you mean. The problem with some of what you refer to can also just happen normally with the aging process. (Of course,
I'm only still 29, right? And if you believe that...........hehehe........) Seriously, though, I do know how you feel. I found, though, that trying to
force myself to remember something or concentrate better only made it worse.
To be honest I feel that the whole cognitive issue receives much less acknowledgement within MS, and by medical care providers than it deserves. In many ways it gets the same response as clinical depression used to get, i.e. 'pull your socks up and just get on with it'.
Oh.....man.....I totally agree with you there! I was FURIOUS over the attitude(s) I got from my medical "team". I got "Well, you sure seem smart enough to ME, even WITH any cognitive decline!" Oh, yea, buddie? I literally told my first neuro that I was sick and tired of him "poo-pooing" my cognitive problems. How would HE like it if suddenly he had to read an MRI slide and couldn't make head nor tails of it simply because it wouldn't "compute"? I make my LIVING with my mind! That got his attention. Although..........he still didn't believe there was much that could be done. Uh huh.........well, THAT was a challenge I couldn't refuse!
Perhaps a neurotransmitter imbalance exists as part of the pathogenesis of MS.
I believe that, also. But here's the rub, as they say. I didn't find where norephinephrine did a thing......maybe a little, but not really. Not for cognitive. BUT..........Robin..........go do some research on "racetam". I stumbled on that by total accident, too. And of course, the medical profession isn't listening to me about this............yet. And "racetam" itself got a "bad rap" a number of years ago because college students were taking it just before exams, etc. Anyway, I had never even heard of any racetam compounds before. (And I'm NOT pushing this drug on people at all........it's just another one of those doggone things I wish they'd RESEARCH here in the U.S.! Maybe we can get the Netherlands to look into it!)
(I think a lot of people who visit this board knows what I'm going to say.) Anyway, I was having a rough time with spasticity and pain. The first TWO drugs that I was given by my doc made me sick, and didn't do a thing. I ran across Keppra in the news. And because Keppra was so safe as a chemical compound, it appeared, I asked to try it to relieve the pain and spasticity. So....ok, he thought the same. No problem. After about 30-45 days of being on it, I suddenly realized that I was thinking clearly again! And remember, I had been experiencing cognitive decline (which might be
clinically considered "mild", but was extremely life-altering for me), for a little over, actually, THREE years! (For a while there I couldn't multi-task at all hardly, and I've always been famous for my multi-tasking abilities. I'm telling ya, if I wasn't depressed before, I was about to become so simply over the decline of my processing speed! Geez!) So..........the only thing medicine-wise that I was taking at that time was Keppra. (I had not started on any other drugs yet.) So, I thought.........wait a minute! The only thing that changed in my regimen over the prior three years was taking Keppra. So.....back to research I went to try to figure out how in the heck Keppra could have made a difference.
Robin.............racetam. My literal thoughts then to myself were: "You've GOT to be kidding me!" I bet it wouldn't work for Alzheimers (I won't go into all the details on that), BUT since I believe MS cognitive issues are from a different problem, and due to what little is known about levetiracetam's mechanisms of actions (and racetam's) my "guess" is that this "might" prove helpful in at least some folks with cognitive decline.
Again, it was serendipity. And the funny thing is, since "racetam" cannot be legally sold here in the U.S., it was really odd how it got through. It's not racetam alone, but it's a derivative. And it's an AED. The singular action of Keppra that is unlike ANY other AED on the market, that I have studied, is that it works SOLELY within the CNS. And it also inhibits Ca2 and assists with GABA. Moreso, even, than a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor.
Interesting, huh?
Deb
EDIT: Oh, yea.....and MY belief as to what may be happening with MS and cognitive problems actually goes back to the axons this time, not necessarily completely with the synapses themselves. And I don't believe that it is "norepinephrine" itself that affects what I'm about to say, but I think it's the "drug" Norpramin that proves synergistic (I believe the same drug is called Pertofran in the U.K.? From Aventis, anyway. And I won't take the generic compounds. When I researched them, they didn't quite come up to par of the original drug, I hate to say. Good enough to get FDA approval - finally - but still not quite the exact duplicate.)
Anyway, Norpramin has been shown to enhance GAP43 expression. GAP43 promotes axonal and neuronal regrowth. Big time. (So does oleic acid, but I'm sure not as much as the medicinal compound, but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to take oleic acid, also? I think that is contained in some fish oil compounds. I take that, too, now.) Anyway............GAP43 is a growth protein. My belief from my research is that enhancing GAP43 helps to repair and/or at least protect axons. There is a time window to help regenerate axonal damage, beyond which it becomes much more difficult to do, but it's there.
So....bottom line? Enhance GAP43 (along with some other tweaks here and there) and you've got something!
http://rgd.mcw.edu/tools/genes/genes_view.cgi?id=62071
Gene Report: Gap43
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Symbol: Gap43
Full Name: growth associated protein 43
Gene Description: may play a role in neurite outgrowth and nerve regeneration
Previous symbol: Basp2;
Previous name: brain abundant, membrane attached signal protein 2; growth accentuating protein 43; brain abundant membrane attached signal protein 2;
View Homologs: 2 found
mRNA: M16736
mRNA: M16228
mRNA: X06338
mRNA RefSeq: NM_017195
RGD Genome Annotation:
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Annotations:
Note Reference
Biological Process: mediates axon growth and synaptic plasticity 625586
Regulation: mRNA increased by nerve growth factor (NGF) due to the ARPP-19 dependent increase of mRNA half-life 625586
Ontology (?)
Term Evidence Reference
Molecular Function calmodulin binding IEA 737860
Biological Process neurogenesis IEP 728446
regulation of cell growth IEA 737860
tissue regeneration IEP 728776
Cellular Component axon IEA 737860
growth cone TAS 728446
membrane IEA 737860
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Mapping Data:
Map Locations for Gap43:
Marker Symbol Map Name Chr. Position
Gene Gap43 Cytogenetic 11 q11
genome assembly 11
External Database Links
GenBank Nucleotide
L21192 (L21192)
M88356 (M88356)
M16228 (M16228)
M16736 (M16736)
X06338 (X06338)
NM_017195 (NM_017195)
Swiss-Prot
P07936 (P07936)
PubMed
Gap43 (11839359)
Gap43 (11813888)
Gap43 (11703425)
Gap43 (3581170)
Gap43 (3428269)
Gap43 (2437653)
Gap43 (1532026)
Gap43 (12034726)
Gap43 (69641)
Gap43 (12701761)
Gap43 (12631465)
Gap43 (12597125)
Gap43 (12562512)
Gap43 (12485886)
Gap43 (12480131)
Gap43 (12210137)
Gap43 (12201630)
Gap43 (12105219)
Gap43 (12814368)
Gap43 (14637107)
Gap43 (14598294)
Gap43 (14519521)
Entrez Gene
Gap43 (29423)
UniGene
Rn.10928 (10928)
OMIM
162060 (162060)
GenBank Protein
NP_058891 (NP_058891)
AAA41189 (AAA41189)
AAA41191 (AAA41191)
AAA41190 (AAA41190)
AAA41192 (AAA41192)
CAA29644 (CAA29644)
Search Genbank for sequences associated with Gap43
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Curated References
1: Nedivi E, etal., J Neurosci 1992 Mar;12(3):691-704.
2: Irwin N, etal., Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A 2002 Sep 17;99(19):12427-31.
3: Tsuzuki K, etal., Acta Otolaryngol 2002 Mar;122(2):161-7.
4: NCBI rat LocusLink and RefSeq merged data July 26, 2002
5: Bartolome MV, etal., Histol Histopathol 2002 Jan;17(1):83-95.
6: Verze L, etal., Ann Anat 2003 Jan;185(1):35-44.
7: Uittenbogaard M, etal., J Neurochem 2003 Feb;84(4):678-88.
8: Kesterson KL, etal., Brain Res Dev Brain Res 2002 Dec 15;139(2):167-74.
9: Young E, etal., Hippocampus 2002;12(4):457-64.
10: Karns LR, etal., Science 1987 May 1;236(4801):597-600.
Search Pubmed for articles about Rat Gap43
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Nomenclature
Date Current Symbol Current Name Previous Symbol Previous name Status Description Reference
09-APR-03: Gap43 growth associated protein 43 APPROVED Symbol and Name updated 629477
14-MAR-03: Gap43 growth associated protein 43 Basp2 brain abundant, membrane attached signal protein 2 PROVISIONAL Data Merged 628472
07-AUG-02: Basp2 brain abundant, membrane attached signal protein 2 PROVISIONAL Symbol and Name status set to provisional 70820
10-JUN-02: Gap43 growth associated protein 43 APPROVED Name updated 70584
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RGD ID: 62071
Created: 11-APR-01
Last Modified: 26-FEB-04
Object Status: ACTIVE