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robbie wrote:Everything in these articles is truly amazing you would almost think it’s too good to be true but there it is, the proof wow!

This has probably been the greatest wall to climb. It sounds too simple and costs nothing, therefore it cannot work is often drawn as a conclusion by the majority of people who read it. Another is, if it were this simple, why has no one discovered it before?

Everyone knows you have to raise the legs to relieve the pressure in the veins and reduce oedema is a favourite. Clearly we can see the opposite is correct by the photographs on the first page.

For several years, I put the whole theory on the backburner because I got fed up with having everything thrown back in my face, particularly by the charities, medical profession and a few brave scientists. Some of the replies from the professionals were nonsensical and reflected badly upon these most learned of people. I became infuriated by their immature reactions and despondent by their contempt and worse their vested interests in keeping a tight lid on this gift to mankind. The trouble is, for this simple theory and therapy to become validated automatically means that many professionals in high-ranking positions become invalidated and redundant.

Take cot death (crib death or Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) Tilt the baby’s crib and drastically reduce the chance of the child dying. Asian mothers proved this by having the baby in bed resting on the pillow next to mums face. Sleeping on an angle caused by the pillow was the reason the professionals were wrong, they predicted statistics would show bed sharing would raise the incidence of cot deaths. Wrong!

The sweating sickness ravaged Europe in the Tudor period several times wiping out millions of people. They had no defence or pharmacy, yet somehow worked out that if the person affected laid down to sleep they were dead by morning. Placing two guards at the bedside preventing the person from laying down meant they often survived.

The foul air was eventually swept away by a tempest and with it went the disease. Some records show an unusual amount of rainfall and floods followed by high humidity. In this thread, high humidity is mentioned in relation to ms attacks, but it is also mentioned by many people who have suffered a cot death in the family, the air was sticky and uncomfortable was one reply in a documentary about SIDS.

Dr Chantler (senior research advisor to the Foundation for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) at her home in London during a meeting after observing some experiments and hearing my humble witterings about tilting a cot a long time ago now said and I quote; ‘My God, I think you have solved it’. When asked what she though I had solved, as I was expecting her to make a comment about the tubular experiments and gravity, she added and I quote; ‘Cot deaths’! Later I wrote to Dr Chantler as nothing much had happened with the foundation asking why she had not acted upon her promise to help make this known to the public or at least have a trial conducted, she replied to everything in my letter except my reference to her saying I had solved cot deaths. Puzzled, I began to slowly fathom out that without cot deaths there would be no foundation for sudden infant death syndrome. The only way research could be conducted would be for me to convince the medical profession. Yes, not the FFSIDS who happily rake in huge amounts of money, but myself being a complete outsider with pathetic odds would have to take on the might of the medical cartels and convince them sufficiently to accept that their own literary bible they trained from was in error. A huge brick wall was built between myself and the FFSIDS and they have blissfully avoided this important discovery collecting £millions. Do I blame Dr Chantler? No, she had the decency to accept the evidence before her and must have faced the same brick walls that I have in trying to get these powerful moguls to put their own lucrative jobs in jeopardy.

But what about the MS Society, after all, the local chapter had observed all of their members who tilted their beds, about 1% of the people that heard my lecture at their ms venue, supported by Roger Kirk, who shared what had happened to himself when he tilted his bed. This small group of people, some of who were later interviewed by the Multiple Sclerosis Resource Centre in Essex for the Raised Bed Survey Report now posted on this thread, provided some convincing evidence that ms could be reversed to some degree simply by tilting a bed.

One would think this would suffice to involve the Multiple Sclerosis Society.

After a long arduous fight to be taken seriously, the charity eventually submitted and agreed that if I could come to London to meet doctors and staff, an appointment would be made, and indeed it was made. More to the point I kept to the appointment deadline bringing along 2 friends at my own expense.

On arrival, the building was impressive, however not a single person was there to meet with us. We ended up trying to convince a somewhat embarrassed receptionist who knew nothing about physiology, and realised it was an impossible situation we went to the MSRC, fortunately we had made another appointment for the same day with another ms charity in East Stanstead Essex, miles away from London, who at least did have the courtesy to meet with us and hear what we were saying. So many promises were made that day, so much excitement by the results and reports. They loved the therapy and theory, yet for a long time nothing much happened. By now, it was slowly beginning to dawn on me that perhaps it was me who was not thinking laterally and I should have seen it coming from miles away. That old familiar vested interests began to pop up written across peoples faces behind all of those smiles, blinks and nods designed to make you feel relaxed and supported, guess many people reading this can relate to it.

A long time later, A major bed manufacturer paid the MSRC to conduct the report and agreed to pay towards a controlled study. Sadly, yet another charity had wised up to the fact that if they advised their members that sleeping on a slope could greatly improve their condition, perhaps it would not be long before their favourite subject became fully understood and they would no longer be required. Maybe I am wrong and all of these reports from people who have tried IBT and found great relief from conditions including ms, spinal cord injury, cerebral palsy, psoriasis, varicose veins, oedema, Parkinson’s disease, visual impairment, respiratory problems, thrombosis, and many more somehow had a placebo effect or divine intervention. But this would surely mean something far greater is at work than 2 blocks of wood under a bed. Indeed it does. Circulation is everything to everyone, without circulation we are dust!
I received a phone call a few years ago from Lawrence who is the manager at the MSRC. He said; “I am not frightened of you Andrew”. I still to this day do not know what he meant by it?

It is true that I have had some serious battles with the charities, it is also true that the charities feel threatened by the possibility of someone finding a cure for their chosen industry. It is also true that IBT helps people to recover and may or may not completely cure them of their ills, but it most certainly is a valuable tool in our armoury for self preservation!

Will it work for everyone with ms? Probably not, but with Dr Franz Schelling’s foresight and Professor Zamboni’s corroborated recent observations showing venous closures, we might begin to understand why some people with ms do not respond to IBT as well as others.

I have more press cuttings and letters scanned if you have not grown tired of them?

Andrew

Please do post more of the intriguing results of your work. Perhaps not everyone will be interested in them, but some of us are.

When considering personal health, my primary interest is in the simple, natural remedies that are easily within the reach of all of us. Whatever measures we can take to directly improve our overall health will have a secondary benefit of mitigating MS or any other health problem we may have.

We ourselves are largely responsible for improving our health in ways that the medical professionals are not and cannot be. We can choose what to eat and drink, what kind of physical activity to exercise our bodies, how much time to be outdoors in the sunshine and fresh air, what time to go to bed, and so much more. It is all up to us to find out what to do, and then to do it.

Even if the improvement resulting from each implemented measure is as little as 1%, when you combine them together, they amount to something significant. All those “one-percenters” are important!

Tilting the bed the suggested inches is such a simple thing to try, and at so little expense.

We can choose to tilt our bed or not, but if we do not, then we will never know how it might have helped us -- over a few days, a few months, or years.

That is why I tilted my bed, and I am glad that I did.

ForeverSpring

Thank you Foreverspring.


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I have one problem w/IBT...I am using a wedge pillow 7 1/2" to creat the incline prescribed. The problem is I end up further down the bed i believe due to gravity. Brings back memories of camping on a slope.

peekaboo wrote:I have one problem w/IBT...I am using a wedge pillow 7 1/2" to creat the incline prescribed. The problem is I end up further down the bed i believe due to gravity. Brings back memories of camping on a slope.

Peekaboo. Your wedge pillow is nothing like IBT and will not produce the results people have observed, no doubt it will help you breath a little better and help with sinusitis, but the whole bed has to be tilted from head to toe for the effect to take place.

RE camping experience. Several people over the years have made reference to this, and indeed I can relate to it also. Their reference has been, "I always felt warmer pitching the tent ona slight gradient and sleeping head up" This is also reflected in the way that cattle and sheep use the hillsides to sleep when laying down. All of them will be facing uphill. An argument against this use of gravity by supposedly dumb animals was that they were focused on the polarity of the Earth and faced in the direction of the needle on a compass. However, when on a hillside an animal can face in two directions and indeed does so. Yet always facing uphill, even when flat ground is in the same field they will be on the hillside facing uphill!

Dip your toe in the water and tilt the whole bed for a minimum of 4 weeks.

Andrew

Hello Andrew!

About a week ago I managed to have my bed adapted to the requisite slope of a 6" higher head end to foot end. I have occasionally since found myself sliding somewhat down the bed but don't allow the feet contact with the end of the bed. I have also since then been on steroids. I have noticed that since going on steroids my urine is really quite dark. Is darker urine common on the inclined bed?

Best regards,

Alex

Hi Alex. It will take a few weeks to sort out the urine. Initially there is a huge detox effect, followed by rapid loss of oedema. This takes around 2-4 weeks of Inclined Therapy.

I.T definitely alters the density of the urine, this was determined using simple hydrometer, measuring urine output over several days sleeping head down head up and horizontal.

I.T urine was darker / stronger. You will also need to balance the urine output with drinking more water.

Did you have to get out of bed during the night to urinate as often?

Things to look out for initially are increased warmth of feet hands. Unusual pains are not uncommon with I.T and are usually followed by improvements, particularly pains that move around the legs and arms.

Thank you for testing this method.

Andrew

gibbledygook wrote:Hello Andrew!

About a week ago I managed to have my bed adapted to the requisite slope of a 6" higher head end to foot end. I have occasionally since found myself sliding somewhat down the bed but don't allow the feet contact with the end of the bed. I have also since then been on steroids. I have noticed that since going on steroids my urine is really quite dark. Is darker urine common on the inclined bed?

Best regards,

Alex

I have hardly once needed the toilet during the night since getting the bed inclined. This compares very favourably with my experience on a very recent trip to Africa when I had a relapse and got tick bite fever which meant going to the toilet every two hours during the night. Today my 5th day on steroids the urine is less alarmingly dark so I must be more hydrated. The steroids and/or IBT or something is making my feet much better in the mornings too. I am not taking any vasodilator herbs at present beyond some rather stale (and not hot) capsaicin pills.

Can you explain more about the differences in your feet?

Oedema or ms related?