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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:17 am
by notasperfectasyou
Thomas wrote:Update:

Wikipedia is no longer in doubt that MS is autoimmune. The wording has been changed to: "In MS, the body's own immune system attacks and damages the myelin. When myelin is lost, the axons can no longer effectively conduct signals."

Their reference is this 2002 Lancet study by Compston and Coles: http://bit.ly/91EFmx
Ok, I'll play - the Lancet Abstract says:
"As with all complex traits, the disorder results from an interplay between as yet unidentified environmental factors and susceptibility genes."
I understand you're just reporting this, but it's outrageous how folks (like the wikifolks) reach and get to publish some of the trash they put out. I still can't get over the one about the mouse that was cured of MS............

Ken

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:25 am
by Thomas
Well the study also says that "Multiple sclerosis is the prototype inflammatory autoimmune disorder of the central nervous system...".

Or did I misunderstand what you meant notasperfectasyou?

It just seems like it´s anything goes with regards to ms and autoimmunity. Nobody can say with certainty either way?

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:19 pm
by notasperfectasyou
That's funny in a sad way. I mean, the same paper says it's this and then elsewhere in the paper it says we don't know. Makes me wonder what the peer reviewers were thinking. It's a cute find. Thanks for posting it. Ken

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:32 pm
by Bubba
jay123 wrote: My personal opinion is CCSVI is the first step of a cure, then we need other drugs to stop the existing immune system responses.
After reading countless webpages and blogs.....
With a very special thanks to Loobie, as his blogs are flawless....
I am leaning, no, almost convinced that ccsvi is probably our salvation, and has the most credible, positive results on a pretty much consistant basis. I believe the autoimmune thing is a side effect.