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good article on the "liberation" procedure

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:53 pm
by scorpion

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:51 pm
by CureOrBust
Zamboni's methods have not been shown to be effective on the most severe form of MS, primary progressive, which afflicts 10 per cent of MS patients, who suffer an attack and then steadily decline.
I would say this is mistaken, the procedure was found to be less effective on the group in Zamboni's trial. However, they were also almost 2-3 times longer duration (RR 5.1±4.4, SP 14±7.8, PP 9.3±6.3), and with EDSS averages much higher than the RR group. The trial's measures also leaned towards "repair".
In addition, the ultrasound and CT scan techniques and technologies used by Zamboni are not readily available in North America, Shtybel said.
I think Shtybel is completely off base or misquoted here. I found many labs around Sydney that have the Ultrasound "technology" to perform the tests, they simply were not trained to use the equipment for this use. I found a neurologist who said they were simple standard tests, and another two radiologist that said they were standard tests, but only really commonly performed on patients within the hospital setting.
Moreover, the angioplasty work performed by Zamboni has not been tested over a long period. What happens if those veins close up tight again?
Zamboni not only agrees with this, but actually reports on cases where the stenosis returns. The MS pathology returns.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:53 am
by scorpion
Thanks for claryfying!!! I was going to point out some of the mistakes the author made as well but I figured I would wait until someone with a little more knowledge on the liberation procedure commented!! Thanks.