Re: Hello and wanting feedback
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:31 am
that is great news qg you likely know sublingual b12 supplements also go straight to the bloodstream. around the time i was diagnosed i used to take 1000 mcg sublingual methylcobalamin per day.
good to see your bloodwork posted. i try to aim for serum ferritin 80-100. a regular serving of lentil soup with an added cup (boiled 1 min then drained) of spinach and some high vit c red pepper could help get both serum ferritin and magnesium moving in the right direction.
for iron supplement, there's floravit too. i have some of that in the fridge, nice and plant-y
magnesium 0.81 is not good at all; try to aim for 0.95-1.1 range, via a supplement if you have to. to get enough magnesium (and other nutrients) from high volume greens, you need to boil them for 1-3 mins depending on type, then drain, or you can end up with too much oxalic acid in your system. i've done that to myself before, with foods high in oxalic acid, and that *does* hurt.
did i see australia? are you close to the ocean? if not, epsom salts baths can help you get your mag levels up. if you decide to supplement, magnesium glycinate is my fave. you could try it at approx 10mg per kg body weight per day for a week, see how you go if it's too much, could dial it back to 7mg per kg per day.
your uric acid looks good, aligns with healthy controls. folks with ms average 0.19 mmol/l or in my lab's language, 194 umol/l. 160s in relapse, 230s in remission.
can you clarify re not having been tested for zinc, yet knowing you have always been zinc deficient? did some long term signs or symptoms suddenly make sense or something?
babies are born with hugely variable zinc stores in their livers. how you are looked after as a child and how you live as an adult can build your original zinc balance up, maintain, or deplete. vegan diet is definitely on the deplete end of that spectrum, what with all the low bioavailability plus interference from phytates and such. extra careful attention is needed, to ensure you exceed mainstream intake recommendations by 30%. all that said though, i'm still curious what has given you this certainty about your zinc status, prior to testing?
i can't say i ever had pain when i was at my most severely zinc deficient. for me it was all about the cognitive losses. i got an outstanding work evaluation, but i could barely drive - major spatial issues. that said zinc is essential and intrinsic to SO MANY things in your body. i couldn't begin to say how your system is assigning available zinc and other resources from food intake, and how it all might be interacting to affect your day to day life.
one thing i might expect from a veg/vegan diet would be high copper. high copper and low zinc is a terrible combination. if you end up getting serum zinc and serum copper tested, the ratio is key. cu:zn should be in the 0.7-1.0 range, if you flip it you want zn:cu around 1.1. for straight levels, i like to keep zinc right up at the top of my local lab's normal range, ie around 18 - 18.5 umol/L, and the copper at around 17 - 17.5 umol/L.
re zinc supplements, i use powder capsules properly balanced w copper myself. but these lozenges could be a sort of interim test, until you hit the lab. they are chalky texture-wise but taste nice.. as long as you need zinc taste and smell depends on zinc, once you have had enough, these lozenges start to leave a metallic aftertaste. that's your sensory perception starting to work again lol http://www.quantumhealth.com/collection ... -raspberry
not a substitute for lab work, but interesting.
good to see your bloodwork posted. i try to aim for serum ferritin 80-100. a regular serving of lentil soup with an added cup (boiled 1 min then drained) of spinach and some high vit c red pepper could help get both serum ferritin and magnesium moving in the right direction.
for iron supplement, there's floravit too. i have some of that in the fridge, nice and plant-y
magnesium 0.81 is not good at all; try to aim for 0.95-1.1 range, via a supplement if you have to. to get enough magnesium (and other nutrients) from high volume greens, you need to boil them for 1-3 mins depending on type, then drain, or you can end up with too much oxalic acid in your system. i've done that to myself before, with foods high in oxalic acid, and that *does* hurt.
did i see australia? are you close to the ocean? if not, epsom salts baths can help you get your mag levels up. if you decide to supplement, magnesium glycinate is my fave. you could try it at approx 10mg per kg body weight per day for a week, see how you go if it's too much, could dial it back to 7mg per kg per day.
your uric acid looks good, aligns with healthy controls. folks with ms average 0.19 mmol/l or in my lab's language, 194 umol/l. 160s in relapse, 230s in remission.
can you clarify re not having been tested for zinc, yet knowing you have always been zinc deficient? did some long term signs or symptoms suddenly make sense or something?
babies are born with hugely variable zinc stores in their livers. how you are looked after as a child and how you live as an adult can build your original zinc balance up, maintain, or deplete. vegan diet is definitely on the deplete end of that spectrum, what with all the low bioavailability plus interference from phytates and such. extra careful attention is needed, to ensure you exceed mainstream intake recommendations by 30%. all that said though, i'm still curious what has given you this certainty about your zinc status, prior to testing?
i can't say i ever had pain when i was at my most severely zinc deficient. for me it was all about the cognitive losses. i got an outstanding work evaluation, but i could barely drive - major spatial issues. that said zinc is essential and intrinsic to SO MANY things in your body. i couldn't begin to say how your system is assigning available zinc and other resources from food intake, and how it all might be interacting to affect your day to day life.
one thing i might expect from a veg/vegan diet would be high copper. high copper and low zinc is a terrible combination. if you end up getting serum zinc and serum copper tested, the ratio is key. cu:zn should be in the 0.7-1.0 range, if you flip it you want zn:cu around 1.1. for straight levels, i like to keep zinc right up at the top of my local lab's normal range, ie around 18 - 18.5 umol/L, and the copper at around 17 - 17.5 umol/L.
re zinc supplements, i use powder capsules properly balanced w copper myself. but these lozenges could be a sort of interim test, until you hit the lab. they are chalky texture-wise but taste nice.. as long as you need zinc taste and smell depends on zinc, once you have had enough, these lozenges start to leave a metallic aftertaste. that's your sensory perception starting to work again lol http://www.quantumhealth.com/collection ... -raspberry
not a substitute for lab work, but interesting.