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stem cell treatments need FDA approval??? - DEBATED IN COURT

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:44 pm
by Liberation
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Re: stem cell treatments need FDA approval??? - DEBATED IN C

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:35 am
by georgegoss
Liberation wrote:It is not about MS, but might have an impact on us. I think the story is quite familiar:
Where it gets fun is the arguments that are going to be debated in court: the clinic argues that stem cell therapy is the practice of medicine and isn't FDA jurisdiction but the FDA is saying that stem cells are drugs, which would then have it BE the FDA jurisdiction.
Full article here:

http://www.examiner.com/multiple-sclero ... th-the-fda
Thanks for sharing this, Lib. Indeed this could very well have a direct impact for the use of MSC's for MS in the US.

I can see both sides of the argument. . . the stem cell clinic is arguing that the person's own stem cells are being re-infused to the same person so it is only a medical procedure that does not involve infusing drugs to the human body. But on the other hand, the FDA is arguing that because drugs (colony stimulating factors) are used for the ex-vivo MSC replication/expansion, then it should be controlled by the FDA. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Re: stem cell treatments need FDA approval??? - DEBATED IN C

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:21 am
by Liberation
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Re: stem cell treatments need FDA approval??? - DEBATED IN C

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:08 am
by georgegoss
In early 2009 when I was searching for a hospital to perform HSCT for my MS I contacted the FDA to ask them about restrictions to perform the procedure in the USA. . . . they told me that HSCT is approved (for cancer treatment) in the USA and that any hospital was free to perform the procedure "off label" for me if they wanted without worring about Government restriction or sanctions. However, the 50 or so transplantation facilities I contacted in the USA at that time refused to perform the procedure for me for my MS. Not because of FDA restrictions, but because they were scared of loosing a ton of money from a lawsuit because of medical liability if I died or were harmed by the procedure. This is why I went to Heidelberg to receive my HSCT where the treatment facilities do not have the same fear because Germany has strict tort limits under the law where medical malpractice payouts are restricted & limited.

Along the same lines Dr. Burt in Chicago performs HSCT for a multitude of autoimmune diseases outside of FDA clinical trials without Government restriction for the same reason. Adding that he beleives the procedure to be so very safe that it is unlikely anyone will be harmed or die from the treatment (and indeed, no one has died from HSCT for MS). So probably he doesn't fear excessive tort judgements if something goes wrong and is willing to perform the procedure, although not specifically indicated in a mainstream way in the USA for autoimmune disorders. It also probably doesn't hurt his practice in charging more than $150K for the procedure.

The case of colony-expanded MSC therapy in the USA is not comparable because such MSC therapy is not FDA approved for any use. So an "off label" use is not an option (because it's not specifically labelled for anything). If it were approved for some use (any use), any hospital or doctor in the USA could legally perform it for MS treatment off label without concern for FDA limitation or sanction.

The law works in a funny way, rarely following the science.