Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:17 am
Could someone please tell me what NMO stands for?
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It can resemble MS, especially for those of us who have mainly spinal lesions...Devic's disease, also known as Devic's syndrome or neuromyelitis optica (NMO), is an autoimmune, inflammatory disorder in which a person's own immune system attacks the optic nerves and spinal cord.
I see you have assumed the 38% for CIS, but why not put the MS group at 80% based on the same article noting the 38%?Sotiris wrote:After taking into account the significant digits of the percentages in the buffalo press release and with some assumptions, the raw data should be as follows:
Because the "about 80%" refers to "those with more advanced symptoms of the disease" and we have no clue about how many they are.Squeakycat wrote: I see you have assumed the 38% for CIS, but why not put the MS group at 80% based on the same article noting the 38%?
Is there something specific in the original press release that says you can't do that?
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Yes.
-------Original Message-------
From: Bill Meikle
Date: 2/14/2010 10:53:10 AM
To: rzivadinov@bnac.net
Subject: cdms and cis numbers...
Hi Dr.Zivadinov
So the CBC reporter compared the rates for CIS subjects to "those with more advanced symptoms of the disease".
would that be CIS vs CDMS?
Thanks.
so there's our answer, for people who actually have ms it's 80%! Thank you dr ziv if you are reading this!!
People with more advanced symptoms of the disease are for sure CDMS so the answer of Dr. Zivadinov holds true. If the MS group was divided into two subgroups, CIS and CDMS with 38% CCSVI and 80% CCSVI respectively, then we should have 158 persons with CIS (60 of them with CCSVI) and 122 CDMS (98 with CCSVI) which is wrong acc. to Dr. Zivadinov's presentation in Hamilton, where he states that the CIS population for the whole study consists of 50 persons.Billmeik wrote:Quote:
Yes.
-------Original Message-------
From: Bill Meikle
Date: 2/14/2010 10:53:10 AM
To: rzivadinov@bnac.net
Subject: cdms and cis numbers...
Hi Dr.Zivadinov
So the CBC reporter compared the rates for CIS subjects to "those with more advanced symptoms of the disease".
would that be CIS vs CDMS?
Thanks.
so there's our answer, for people who actually have ms it's 80%! Thank you dr ziv if you are reading this!!
hmm that table is very nice graphically but at least the top number where it says ms and puts 56% next too it is probably wrong. Those numbers are for the whole group including cis.
I am pondering writing dr ziv AGAIAN and asking for clarification AGAIN but wasting busy people's time isn't on. What part about the above
exchange is unclear? How would a new question have to be worded to make the disinformation stop?
I think the main question is about who exactly is at the 80%...so you could ask, "Does the 80% apply to all CDMS? Or does it apply only to a subset of CDMS with more advanced symptoms?"Billmeik wrote:I am pondering writing dr ziv AGAIAN and asking for clarification AGAIN but wasting busy people's time isn't on. What part about the above
exchange is unclear? How would a new question have to be worded to make the disinformation stop?