Cece wrote:I thought I should mention that I think it is more than okay for Dr. Sclafani not to offer advice regarding the upper cervical care ideas. It is not his discipline (interventional radiology) and it is not proven. The burden is on those practitioners (Dr. Rosa, Dr. Amir) to prove their ideas. There is a different burden on Dr. Sclafani to prove his own ideas regarding CCSVI (the use of IVUS, the impact of renal vein compression on extracranial drainage, the existence and optimal treatment of CCSVI, etc).
Registries, randomized controlled trials. Funding. Presenting at conferences. Influencing other researchers. Sharing observations.
I see too a difference between our perspective as patients and a doctor's perspective as a doctor. We are individuals. We are most concerned about our own outcome, which we may already know if we've had the procedure done, and we may be in search of alternatives if we cannot afford another procedure or there was vein injury or our symptoms did not respond to the procedure. But to a doctor, there is always a chance for a fresh start in the next patient. Always a chance to get it right. So it is okay if Dr. Sclafani focuses on what he can directly do, which is get it right in the next patient. I think he has shown through his engagement with us here that he is a remarkably caring doctor. And to whatever extent he has been able to optimize his own techniques and influence other researchers in that regard, it is of great benefit to us collectively.
A good new year to all of us.
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Cece hope you have gotten over your cold
I have to say that your comment above shows what the issue is for those of us who keep asking Dr S to look at the implications of Atlas Alignment in the CCSVI picture. We are not saying that Dr S needs to understand or even agree with any thing 'Chiropractic', what we are saying is that Frans Schelling has spoken for decades about back jets and reflux. Dr F has spoken about the issues of vascular flow that is effected by spinal alignment and now Dr Rosa is providing the Graphics for visualising the the issue and a way to correct it.
The issue that many have is with the title Chiropractic and they switch off!
What we are asking for is some testing and checking of what Franz is saying that the VV's and also all other Veins must be checked to identify the cause of 'MS Lesions' IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT VALVES OR ANY OTHER MALFORMATION THAT IS STATIC AND OR PERMANENT, some of which can be seen on MRI and some are not detected by low Tesla MRI due to their size.
It is these Lesions of Grey and White Matter that are the concern in 'genuine MS' cases.
The graphic that HappyPoet posted is the artist impression of what is happening, Dr Rosa's Upright MRI study is the actual visual. Dr F and Dr Hirshfeild have been writing articles for years. There are PwMS that are having positive outcomes of various durations after having 'Quality' Atlas Alignments.
So what we are saying is that Atlas Alignment is a factor in CCSVI as much as the Valve Malformations are.
The pieces below are also support of the understanding that the blockages and slow flow don't have to be constant. They are the issue when there is a volume of blood under pressure that is unable to travel to the Heart away from the brain due to temporary OR permanent restriction of flow. That causes the blood to accelerate back into the brain where the volume and pressure causes major damage at various times during life of PwMS because thos regions effected cannot cope with the Back Jets.
*** What we are asking Dr S to consider is how can we test and then treat VEINS in this predicament? ***
The link
The key comments to get us thinking the same way without issues of Chiropractic involvement.
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Carol Schumacher Via Alison: Dr Flanagan writes this about Dr Schelling's book:
"His book Multiple Sclerosis: The Image and Its Message, is a gem. It should be a primer for anyone seriously involved in multiple sclerosis research so that we are all reading from the same page."
http://www.ms-info.net/ms_040504.pdf
Franz Schelling It is FLEETING PRESSURE GRADIENTS arising in, and in between, different blood vessels, above all the UTTERLY FICKLE VEINS which are the worst threat to what is contained in the craniovertebral space. We usually don't even have an inkling of the forces which can thereby be exerted, especially on the part of veins.
Carol Schumacher It is this fleeting nature, caused by assuming certain positions for a prolonged period and then moving in a way to cause a forceful back-jet of blood. like stomping on the bulging part of a kinked hose. if there is a channel for the blood to escape it will follow that path and when the vein turns sharply that spot will be traumatized by the force of the jet and by turbulent flow. That is where Franz found the lesions in people with MS when he did his post mortem examinations. This is what he has been trying to get across for so long. Did I state it correctly, Franz Schelling? p.s. Happy New Year!!!
Franz Schelling All those pathologists who studied the way in which those lesion which are peculiar to MS spread actually showed damages which can only be brought about by retrograde impacts on the part of inner cerebral veins. I just realized that these impacts must have originated in forceful compressions of extracranial veins which cannot be duly emptied in direction of the heart ... Not having beed allowed to study these mechanisms at post mortem, I am happy Paolo Zamboni started investigating the problem in vivo - alerting to the fact that there remains all too much to be learned on the injuriousness of venous dynamic anomalies in the craniovertebral space. Engaging more gifted scientists and physicians in this field will allow more people who are suffering from, or concerned about, MS to become happy in our New Year.
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Nigel