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Re: Please SLOW DOWN

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:38 am
by malden
MarkW wrote:We have a one patient report that found CCSVI in a Parkinson's person.

It is NOT a confirmed diagnosis of CCSVI syndrome because there has been no selective venogram performed in the report. Selective venograms are required to show stenosis(es) of many veins. A researcher needs to check all major veins to start to document where any restrictions are found and the type of those restrictions.

WHEN such a report is made we will know that CCSVI syndrome occurs in Parkinson's patients NOT before. Science is a slow boring logical process and needs time for research.

Sorry for raining on the parade but someone needed to inject a dose of caution. Please slow down.

MarkW
Selective venogram can not "show stenosis(es) of many veins". It just show RTG image of the stream of the dye colored blood flowing inside the vein. Stream narrowing does not always mean vessel stenosis.

Re: Please SLOW DOWN

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:50 am
by fernando
MarkW wrote:We have a one patient report that found CCSVI in a Parkinson's person.

It is NOT a confirmed diagnosis of CCSVI syndrome because there has been no selective venogram performed in the report. Selective venograms are required to show stenosis(es) of many veins. A researcher needs to check all major veins to start to document where any restrictions are found and the type of those restrictions.

WHEN such a report is made we will know that CCSVI syndrome occurs in Parkinson's patients NOT before. Science is a slow boring logical process and needs time for research.

Sorry for raining on the parade but someone needed to inject a dose of caution. Please slow down.

MarkW

The other day I actually talked to a Parkinson's patient treated for CCSVI. Multiple stenosis including azygos found. He reports benefits, more energy, can do subtle things he was not able before the procedure.

Anecdotal, I know.

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:47 am
by Nunzio
There is a strong correlation between Multiple Sclerosis and Parkingson, accordind to Dr. Noda who operated on 1600 of these patients with good results. This is a Google translation:
Parkinson's and multiple sclerosis cured by surgery.
For nearly 20 years that there is a surgical technique result of research by Dr. Fernández-Noda, internationally renowned surgeon who solves many degenerative central nervous system, including Parkinson's, multiple sclerosis, epilepsy or cerebellar ataxia. Technique which, despite being backed by more than 1,600 patients treated, is hardly known by the medical establishment. Why?
The original paper in Spanish is here:http://free-news.org/jacamp03.htm
His idea was that there was a compression from the scalene muscle on the blood vessels going to the brain. Possibly for Parkinson was the vertebral artery but the same muscle might restrict the flow on the venous system, therefore causing CCSVI.
Just a wild guess.