Re: CCSVI and CCVBP
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:21 pm
Dr F, I hear what you have been saying about infections and disease, particularly de-generative diseases you have written about.
The regular bottom line is that the infection and the disease exist together, the infection can't be said to start the disease, and also the disease doesn't happen with out the infection.
My reading of research tells me that often the reason for the co-incidence is that the bacterial infection modifies the immune system and that destabilises the balance of many body systems and functions.
So saying that the infection didn't cause the disease is arguable and won't ever be resolved as causative or not.
The treatment of the infection is most likely to improve the symptom management, what that will do for the disease is going to be a wait and see situation due to the damage over time.
So treat the infection no matter what and manage the symptoms that are left with an open mind!
I struggle with people righting off the bacterial involvement in any disease, it is too common that there are bacteria and disease in the same equation! Bacterial involvement in Health is not understood, full stop! If you can eliminate one element of unbalance that should not be there or should not be at the volume it exists, then you are moving towards a level playing field.
Bacteria are more evolved and rapid at evolving than most other life forms on the Planet and we don't have a Healthy respect for their control of Humanity!
A prime situation is atrophy of the Thalamus and hypothalamus chain, can depletion of blood or oxygen or cellular nutrients or waste build-up be the only factors, I think not, the unhealthy environment that is created by these factors creates the ideal environment for bacteria to thrive and spread. Once established any where in the body the bacteria are on the look out for the next area or region to use as the host of a new colonisation by the bacteria. Whether intra-cellular or not the bacteria are a step ahead of us, modifying us to suit them!
From my bacteria and I,
;)
Nigel
The regular bottom line is that the infection and the disease exist together, the infection can't be said to start the disease, and also the disease doesn't happen with out the infection.
My reading of research tells me that often the reason for the co-incidence is that the bacterial infection modifies the immune system and that destabilises the balance of many body systems and functions.
So saying that the infection didn't cause the disease is arguable and won't ever be resolved as causative or not.
The treatment of the infection is most likely to improve the symptom management, what that will do for the disease is going to be a wait and see situation due to the damage over time.
So treat the infection no matter what and manage the symptoms that are left with an open mind!
I struggle with people righting off the bacterial involvement in any disease, it is too common that there are bacteria and disease in the same equation! Bacterial involvement in Health is not understood, full stop! If you can eliminate one element of unbalance that should not be there or should not be at the volume it exists, then you are moving towards a level playing field.
Bacteria are more evolved and rapid at evolving than most other life forms on the Planet and we don't have a Healthy respect for their control of Humanity!
A prime situation is atrophy of the Thalamus and hypothalamus chain, can depletion of blood or oxygen or cellular nutrients or waste build-up be the only factors, I think not, the unhealthy environment that is created by these factors creates the ideal environment for bacteria to thrive and spread. Once established any where in the body the bacteria are on the look out for the next area or region to use as the host of a new colonisation by the bacteria. Whether intra-cellular or not the bacteria are a step ahead of us, modifying us to suit them!
From my bacteria and I,
;)
Nigel