MS Society members 'break ranks' and try treatment
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:26 am
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PointsNorth wrote:All I know is that when you mention the name "Zamboni" to your MS Neurologist, their veins bulge out of the side of their heads.
You had me worried a second there, but since you said "veins" I am reassured, because there is No Way that venous flow can have any influence on brain function.PointsNorth wrote:All I know is that when you mention the name "Zamboni" to your MS Neurologist, their veins bulge out of the side of their heads.
I watched this and it was very unsatisfying. The interviewer was understandably tough, but there were good answers to all his questions and she didn't give them. I know not everyone is a skilled examinee, but I couldn't help wishing I could have been there to answer.erinc14 wrote:http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Health/201010 ... ty-101012/
PointsNorth wrote:My opinion:
All I know is that when you mention the name "Zamboni" to your MS Neurologist, their veins bulge out of the side of their heads. I don't think this is a big pharma conspiracy but rather Neurologists (some of whom sit on MS Society Advisory Boards) having their way of life threatened e.g. Freedman fearing that money could be diverted away from his precious studies. The neurologists lean on the MS Society and voila. Zamboni has been identified as a foreign body and the neurologists are the immune response which must be summoned to mop things up and bring our universe back into harmony.
What does everyone else think???
PN
I think that profession has a hard road ahead on account of certain vocal representatives. I was just listening to Alistair McLeod on the radio and I think I would agree. If you release something for public consumption, it is 'out there' forever. Nothing you can do. For good or ill.fogdweller wrote:Also neurologists are a proud lot and probably loath to admit theyl have been barking up the wrong tree for 40+ years, and were not the ones to find the important next discovery.
I don't feel sorry for these guys. They're prima donnas. They should be setting aside those big egos and act like the professionals they are supposed to be. As doctors and men of science they have an obligation to "do no harm" and to consider all possible options for improving the health of their patients. To just dismiss an idea because you haven't thought of it or it threatens you in some way is stupid, but for a doctor it is unethical. Maybe Zamboni doesn't have ALL the answers but it's obvious he has at least SOME of them. If these guys were smart they would get in the game, and begin to at least explore the possibilities and collaborate with vascular docs and IRs to learn. Instead they stick with their lame ways of "managing" their patients' disease. If MS is proven to be what we think it is "a vascular condition that results in neurological symptoms", they could be working WITH IRs and vascular docs to improve the health of their patients. The way they are acting now I think they risk being left out in the cold and it would serve them right.I am not cynical enough to think it is a conspiracy or even an intentional thing. In his movie, "An Inconvenient Trth" Al Gore made an prescent comment.."I have never been able to convince someone that something is true when his livelihood depends on his believing it is not true." I think that is at play here. Also neurologists are a proud lot and probably loath to admit theyl have been barking up the wrong tree for 40+ years, and were not the ones to find the important next discovery.
1eye wrote:I think that profession has a hard road ahead on account of certain vocal representatives. I was just listening to Alistair McLeod on the radio and I think I would agree. If you release something for public consumption, it is 'out there' forever. Nothing you can do. For good or ill.fogdweller wrote:Also neurologists are a proud lot and probably loath to admit theyl have been barking up the wrong tree for 40+ years, and were not the ones to find the important next discovery.
Maybe this ECTRIMS will help
To that extent the Beirut study is important in that it leaves behind 'ccsvi exists?' behind.LauraV wrote: If these guys were smart they would get in the game, and begin to at least explore the possibilities and collaborate with vascular docs and IRs to learn.