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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:20 am
by esta
hi all
i immediately wrote dr simka regarding this and his answer was as folliws
You can find the letter at: http://www.ccsvi-ms.pl/03%20list%20kons ... lewicz.pdf
In brief, the statement is not absolutely negative. The need of trial covered by public money on actual impact of endovascular procedures on MS is emphasized. It is also stated that the treatment has not be proven to be efficient (which is not true - but prof. Ryglewicz did not know current papaers on this topic) and safety issues have been raised (again, with no evidence). The good thing is that it is postulated to create a joint commitee on this problem, with neurologists, radiologists and vascular surgeons. Since some of top vascular surgery professors in Poland do the procedures, I can't believe that the treatment could be stopped.
Marian Simka

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:25 am
by Rici
Medical Chamber aplays to stop the operations. Same as Ms professor Rydzewicz. They have the negative opinion on the mehods -all of them.
Rici

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:09 am
by 1eye
His having done more jugular and azygous stenting work than probably anyone on earth, and his having successfully cleared clots from them, it seems to me that Dr. Simka is the last person who should be interfered with. He is helping us all.

treatment in Poland

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:50 am
by odd1
:? I have sent an e-mail to the people listed but the 2nd e-mail address failed, has anybody else had this problem? I was treated in Poland in September and hate the thought that the opportunity to have this treatment could be taken away from others.

Re: treatment in Poland

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:28 pm
by Rici
odd1 wrote::? I have sent an e-mail to the people listed but the 2nd e-mail address failed, has anybody else had this problem? I was treated in Poland in September and hate the thought that the opportunity to have this treatment could be taken away from others.
Prof neuro ryglew@ipin.edu.pl mailbox is full
Regards
Rici

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:32 am
by Rokkit
Thank you, esta. Excellent work.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:39 am
by Lassen
Rokkit wrote:Thank you, esta. Excellent work

hi all
i immediately wrote dr simka regarding this and his answer was as folliws
You can find the letter at: http://www.ccsvi-ms.pl/03%20list%20kons ... lewicz.pdf
In brief, the statement is not absolutely negative. The need of trial covered by public money on actual impact of endovascular procedures on MS is emphasized. It is also stated that the treatment has not be proven to be efficient (which is not true - but prof. Ryglewicz did not know current papaers on this topic) and safety issues have been raised (again, with no evidence). The good thing is that it is postulated to create a joint commitee on this problem, with neurologists, radiologists and vascular surgeons. Since some of top vascular surgery professors in Poland do the procedures, I can't believe that the treatment could be stopped.
Marian Simka.
Hi Everybody. I am a Pole. I understand Polish - Mr Simka is not right. Please translate the links, I have already read them. It is all to stop the surgeries.
http://www.ccsvi-ms.pl/01%20list-sm-stenty.pdf
http://www.ccsvi-ms.pl/02%20list%20prez ... ologii.pdf
http://www.ccsvi-ms.pl/03%20list%20kons ... lewicz.pdf

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:49 am
by PCakes

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:31 pm
by David1949
In the early 1900's there were gambling ships which anchored just beyond the territorial waters of the US. They did that because gambling was illegal in the US, but not out to sea beyond the territorial limit. So maybe we'll have to get hospital ships were we can get the Liberation treatment or other treatments that the government tyrants don't want us to have.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:31 am
by Puma
Hi Rici,

I understand the problem. I am from Poland and I have read the both letters of profesor and President of the Doctors Chamber. These are very biased statements just to prohibit the operations. Adressed to the Health Ministry can do all the worst. It looks like Mr Simka has forgotten Polish language or so?

Greetings :lol: Puma

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:53 am
by Leonard
I am an MS patient myself and I understand very well what moves patients to seek treatment abroad. but the situation as it is developing with thousands of patients having to travel thousands of miles is not a healthy one. this is often not a one-fix thing and needs continuous follow up and after care to ensure the veins stay open. like it was and still is in my own case.

the sitaution as it is developing is at least in part due to the very rigid nature of some of the national health systems. with something as new and as disruptive as this discovery, the old systems simply do not seem to be able to deal with this thing, or anything that is outside the box. it makes you question how healthy our health systems really are, whether innovation or new ideas have any chances or everything just collapses under the weight of the old status quo and workers wanting to hang on to their old prerequisites. fortunately, here we have the Internet that consolidates decentralised powers..

we need to get and keep pressure on to have the regular health system in many countries adapt, the protocols to change, to get the ccsvi procedure become a normal part of the path for treatment when diagnosed with MS. therefore (and I say this with reservation as I know what all of you who can not find treatment at home are going thorugh) I tend to see the recent statements by Zamboni at ECTRIMS and now what is happening here in Poland with mixed feelings because this will increase the pressure further for ccsvi to land in the local normal health systems.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:58 am
by Rici
PCakes wrote:another perspective...
http://ccsvinews.blogspot.com/2010/10/p ... ation.html
Lassen wrote: Hi Everybody. I am a Pole. I understand Polish - Mr Simka is not right. Please translate the links, I have already read them. It is all to stop the surgeries.
David1949 wrote:In the early 1900's there were gambling ships which anchored just beyond the territorial waters of the US. They did that because gambling was illegal in the US, but not out to sea beyond the territorial limit. So maybe we'll have to get hospital ships were we can get the Liberation treatment or other treatments that the government tyrants don't want us to have.
Puma wrote:Hi Rici,

I understand the problem. I am from Poland and I have read the both letters of profesor and President of the Doctors Chamber. These are very biased statements just to prohibit the operations. Adressed to the Health Ministry can do all the worst. It looks like Mr Simka has forgotten Polish language or so?

Greetings :lol: Puma
Leonard wrote:I am an MS patient myself and I understand very well what moves patients to seek treatment abroad. but the situation as it is developing with thousands of patients having to travel thousands of miles is not a healthy one. this is often not a one-fix thing and needs continuous follow up and after care to ensure the veins stay open. like it was and still is in my own case. ...
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Thank you. Please send more e-mails! It's not for me, for others!
greetings
Rici

Ameds clinic in Poland has just announced it has expanded

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:48 am
by dm656
Ameds clinic in Poland announced yesterday that they have expanded their operations and anticiapate a wait time of about 30 days when they are fully operational by the end of this year,

http://www.facebook.com/pages/CCSVI-in- ... 0796282297



This is great news and I would highly recomend this clinic as an option.


www.ameds.pl

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:31 am
by dunkempt
Ameds clinic in Poland announced yesterday
Off-topic, dm656; and you've already got two other whole threads about Ameds.
-d