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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:56 am
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This doesn't say miracle, but it does say cure.cheerleader wrote:
--Dr. Dumas, NO ONE, including Dr. Zamboni, has called angioplasty to relieve CCSVI a "miracle cure." This phrase is only used by those seeking to denigrate Dr. Zamboni's discovery. Blockage of the central veins is a medical problem.
cheer
The English EuroMedic splash page does say "taking care for your cure," and I wish it didn't. To me, "taking care for your cure" sounds a like a phrase a non-native English speaker might create - I wondered if it might be a Polish speaker's rendition of something like "taking care for your treatment" - perhaps influenced by the similar sounds of "care" and "cure" so that it was almost like a play on words.This doesn't say miracle, but it does say cure.
http://www.euromedicpoland.com/index.php?setlang=eng
Again, I wish it didn't say "taking care for your cure" on the splash page, but a bad translation of "we care about your treatment" isn't quite the same as a medical pronouncement that CCSVI cures MS.6. What results can be expected and how long-lasting are they?
The treatment has been performed for a few months, thus there is no information on the long-lasting effects. Unfortunately there is no way evaluation and the extent of improvement can be guaranteed. In general, physical fitness and comfort of almost all patients have improved, however there are differences in the extent of the improvements.
But you're focused on diagnostics, using doppler ultrasound in a different way than as taught and used by vascular surgeons throughout their careers, which Dr. Sclafani answered to last night ... the rest of us are focused on being in the veins - and what happens once treated.scorpion wrote:Please correct me if I am off base with this statement but it seems to me that outside Zamboni's inner circle of companions, no one has been able to come close to validating his hypothesis. I remember reading that Dr. Simka has been collabarating with Zamboni since 2006 so I am not sure I would consider his results "independent". I would like to see a group of people outside that inner circle verify some of his claims.
What about Al-Omari in Jordan? (84% of MS patients with CCSVI; 24% of controls?)Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:08 am Post subject:
Please correct me if I am off base with this statement but it seems to me that outside Zamboni's inner circle of companions, no one has been able to come close to validating his hypothesis.
Not true. I met Dr. Simka in Bologna in Sept. 2009, and he and I met Dr. Zamboni at the exact same time, for the first time. Dr. Simka was following his research since 2008- like many of us on TIMS- but did not start studying the connection in earnest until late 2009-early 2010.scorpion wrote:Please correct me if I am off base with this statement but it seems to me that outside Zamboni's inner circle of companions, no one has been able to come close to validating his hypothesis. I remember reading that Dr. Simka has been collabarating with Zamboni since 2006 so I am not sure I would consider his results "independent". I would like to see a group of people outside that inner circle verify some of his claims.
Dunkempt thanks for providing one other name. That was all I was asking. Please refer to my original post where I never referred to Zamboni's inner circle as mysterious. No need to fire everyone up by throwing in some extra words. I just keep reading about the same names over and over and many of them seemed to have worked closely with Zamboni prior to the his CCSVI hypothesis. I was saying, for me ,that it will be important for scientists not in that circle to verify Zamboni's CCSVI hypothesis.dunkempt wrote:What about Al-Omari in Jordan? (84% of MS patients with CCSVI; 24% of controls?)Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:08 am Post subject:
Please correct me if I am off base with this statement but it seems to me that outside Zamboni's inner circle of companions, no one has been able to come close to validating his hypothesis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20351667
Is Al-Omari also part of this mysterious inner circle of Zamboni companions (who live and work around the world)? If so, how big would you say that "inner circle" is? How do you get to join?
-d
http://ccsviworldwidevictory.com/DrSimka.aspxcheerleader wrote:Not true. I met Dr. Simka in Bologna in Sept. 2009, and he and I met Dr. Zamboni at the exact same time, for the first time. Dr. Simka was following his research since 2008- like many of us on TIMS- but did not start studying the connection in earnest until late 2009-early 2010.scorpion wrote:Please correct me if I am off base with this statement but it seems to me that outside Zamboni's inner circle of companions, no one has been able to come close to validating his hypothesis. I remember reading that Dr. Simka has been collabarating with Zamboni since 2006 so I am not sure I would consider his results "independent". I would like to see a group of people outside that inner circle verify some of his claims.
cheer