Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:12 pm
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I've had that response from many people as well..... as well as the skeptical "no medical reason for it".did seem genuinely excited....snip....does make sense
Which two treatments?chrishasms wrote: There are only two treatments out there right now that are guaranteed, not by doctors but by the people who have done it, to get you something back. These are the only wo things really being discussed anymore on TIMS because we are a very proactive group.
Holly's right. Dr. Dake is fixing something that is broken in people. Major veins should be open. He understands, as a vascular doctor, how venous congestion creates myelopathy. You can call it MS (I now believe MS is just the result of venous congestion and myelopathy) but Dr. Dake isn't treating MS. He is treating CCSVI. The fact that this shows up in every MS patient that is tested will not change mainstream neurology's standards of practice...not for a while. But if an MS patient has a headache or edema, and consults with a cardio-thoracic doctor, and is found to have venous insufficiency, s/he has every right to be treated.peekaboo wrote:While in consult w/ Dr Dake, my sister asked if a clinical trial will be forth coming? Dr D's eyes bugged out and said Not for a long while this is too radical...the ms/neuro community is not ready & much more legit info will be needed where there will be little room for doubt. i believe this is dr. d's mission & if "the sacrid community" wont listen ...maybe cardio will.
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And that's the story we need to stick to if we are not to be on the hook for some serious jackson. So right Cheer. That's what I keep tellilng people. Don't look at this as "MS fixing surgery". There're blocked veins, they shouldn't be blocked. He is opening them. It helps with what we call MS, then great but you're right, it's an intervention to fix plumbing that's not functioning as it should. Goes back to the whole "specialist" mentality that I abhor so much as it has Dr.'s prescribing things for your bladder that make other things worse and so on and so forth. We ARE a symbiotic system, not a series of systems that work independant of each other.cheerleader wrote:But if an MS patient has a headache or edema, and consults with a cardio-thoracic doctor, and is found to have venous insufficiency, s/he has every right to be treated.
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Do not forget or underestimate Campath.chrishasms wrote:There are only two treatments out there right now that are guaranteed, not by doctors but by the people who have done it, to get you something back. These are the only wo things really being discussed anymore on TIMS because we are a very proactive group.
Revimmune and CCVI treatment.