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Buffalo Study

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:40 am
by Kuly
Does anyone know when the 1st set of results willvbe released?.....have had MS for 15 years now SPMS but am anxiously waiting to cease the progression and @ 44years of age who knows? :P


Regards,

Martin

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:30 pm
by jay123
OK, everybody - I give up. let's turn this forum into a chat room instead of a forum with threads! lol - Then, everybody can discuss anything anytime and get different answers constantly!!!




Kuh - supposedly with the next few weeks.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:37 pm
by ozarkcanoer
jay123, Please be kind to the newbies. We were all newbies once.

Kuly, the results of the first 500 participants in the Buffalo study will be announced at the beginning of February. We don't have an exact date yet. Just keep your eyes peeled on this site and also on the CCSVI Facebook page. There is a lot of interesting information in the stickies and other older threads.

ozarkcanoer

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:42 pm
by jay123
But couldn't you also have said to just please read, search and then ask questions? Especially in this case where another identically labeled thread is just a few threads below this one!

I vote we make it a chat room! LOL

and I did answer their question for them.

Chat Room

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:53 pm
by Kuly
Hi Jay123,
sorry to have not done a search but was @ work and they monitor internet usage guess should have waited and searched @ home.

Thanks for cutting me some "slack" ozark canoer! ..can't wait for the results.




Kuly 8)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:10 pm
by jay123
Kuly,
Sorry it wasn't meant personal to you at all, I thought Ozark over-reacted. I didn't 'chastise' you at all I made a general comment about the state of our forum, and I did even answer your question. We have just had a rash of duplicate threads lately and it gets annoying that 1) people don't try and find the info themselves first (which also allows them to add info to an existing thread which might be useful) and 2) that the mods aren't really doing any moderating like moving unrelated posts out of CCSVI, making stickies of posts such as 'advice to newbies' and freezing posts that are really off topic like aluminum cans causing ccsvi and blood letting!

This has been the best forum I have ever participated in (mostly due to Joan's tireless work!) and I hate to see it getting messed up.

And right after you posted that thread, someone else posted another duplicate thread right away that duplicated Cheerleader's thread!

That's why I said i give up, and talked facetiously about turning this in to a chat room!

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:48 pm
by onesickrace
if i may, the search button isnt the easiest thing to use, i still havent figured it out. according to the "search button" theres nothing on this site regarding "CCSVI" im sure im not the only non-computer savy person on here... add in the cog fog and voila... you feel like a 90 year old who has never touched a computer... just sayin...

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:45 pm
by jimmylegs
please read the search item in the FAQ sticky:
http://www.thisisms.com/ftopict-5284.html
and be sure you use the forum search (top) NOT the site search (under modules, top left)

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:04 pm
by thornyrose76
There's a lot of info in this particular forum and it is a bit overwhelming, you'd be reading forever and a day to read everything, so if a question is repetitive, let the asker know, let them know where to specifically look, as someone did me. I thanked him and promptly followed the link. :D We're all in this boat together!

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:06 pm
by sbr487
I think both Jay and Ozark are correct ...
A newbie is likely to make mistakes (I am guilty of quite a few)
At the same time, cluttered info gives a bad image of this forum.
I came to this forum by chance and I was amazed by the technicality of discussions (for a moment I thought these are Dr's)

Anyway, I think the solution would be for admins to regularly label such threads as duplicate and probably demote their ranking. This is just in theory. I dont know how to implement. In other technical forums, admins keep moving threads from one forum to other since newbies keep posting in irrelevant forums

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:32 pm
by jay123
sbr487 wrote:I think both Jay and Ozark are correct ...
A newbie is likely to make mistakes (I am guilty of quite a few)
At the same time, cluttered info gives a bad image of this forum.
I came to this forum by chance and I was amazed by the technicality of discussions (for a moment I thought these are Dr's)

Anyway, I think the solution would be for admins to regularly label such threads as duplicate and probably demote their ranking. This is just in theory. I dont know how to implement. In other technical forums, admins keep moving threads from one forum to other since newbies keep posting in irrelevant forums
Thanks, thats my point that the mods should get much more active here!

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:46 pm
by Johnson
jay123 wrote:
Thanks, thats my point that the mods should get much more active here!
I would always use could over should, but perhaps we need to cut the moderators some slack? After all, they are volunteers, with MS, and may be suffering their own "cog fog"...

Grin

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:14 pm
by whyRwehere
It seems to me, we keep having thread after thread about newbies and searches, and duplicate threads and explanations of what we meant by what we said. Just try not to read everything and the best stuff will stay at the top...

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:30 pm
by CureIous
sbr487 wrote:I think both Jay and Ozark are correct ...
A newbie is likely to make mistakes (I am guilty of quite a few)
At the same time, cluttered info gives a bad image of this forum.
I came to this forum by chance and I was amazed by the technicality of discussions (for a moment I thought these are Dr's)

Anyway, I think the solution would be for admins to regularly label such threads as duplicate and probably demote their ranking. This is just in theory. I dont know how to implement. In other technical forums, admins keep moving threads from one forum to other since newbies keep posting in irrelevant forums
I have yet to see an internet forum since 1998 that didn't ebb and flow. Most of the time it's pointless to micromanage them, just gently direct and guide as best as possible. If really out of control, that's what mods are for. Otherwise I trust in people's innate abilities to "get the gist" after awhile. By constantly responding to innate comments and/or threads that are redundant, they are then bumped to the top. Kind of defeats the whole purpose. Less is more. Always. PM's are even better. Posts can be self-edited too. Bonus. Without a 36 point type at the top saying "Newbies, do NOT post without reading this first", we will keep having this discussion well into the future. Academic at best.

Btw welcome Kuly. Tell us a bit about yourself maybe now that we got us a thread going discussing your thread... :)

Mark

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:18 am
by CureIous
How about a search primer while we're at it, that might be a bit more helpful.

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There are many more good posts to read under that one. This of course speaks to searching in general not just the buffalo study. Enjoy!
Mark.